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Articles created/expanded on February 20

The Valley View Ferry carrying cars across the Kentucky River
The Valley View Ferry carrying cars across the Kentucky River
  • The citation on second biggest waterfall as provided in the article is an unreliable one.

...that the Cottonmouth jack,Uraspis secunda, is so named because of its pure white tongue and mouth?(selfnom)Ryan shell (talk) 17:56, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

    • No need for the scientific name here, since it sounds like it's the common name that is "so-named", and the article should already mention the scientific classification of the animal anyway. It would be punchier and read more clearly without the Uraspis secunda portion in there. Runa27 (talk) 20:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 19

U.S. General James Van Fleet inspects members of 3 RAR after awarding a Presidential Unit Citation to the Battalion in December 1952
Alternate: ...that William Henry Emerson (pictured) was the first dean of the Georgia Institute of Technology?
Aw, beat me to it! :) I came up with:
Aerial view of the Kinzie Street bridges
Aerial view of the Kinzie Street bridges
File:Public Nudity - Buttocks.jpg

Articles created/expanded on February 18

Pope Clement IX
Pope Clement IX
Fabyan Windmill in January 2008
Fabyan Windmill in January 2008

Articles created/expanded on February 17

File:USS George Clymer APA-27.jpg
A Victorian era depiction of a MacCrimmon piper.
A Victorian era depiction of a MacCrimmon piper.
Evans during the Klan parade in Washington, D.C., September 1926.
Evans during the Klan parade in Washington, D.C., September 1926.
Length and reference verified, ninefold expansion. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 16:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Toyota motorsports is not a new article, but a copy of Toyota#Toyota in motorsports. Please expand this article five folds to qualify for DYK. --PFHLai (talk) 22:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • ...that the devastating effect of the tsunami in 365 AD was such that the anniversary of the disaster was two hundred years later still annually commemorated in Alexandria as “day of horror”?

Articles created/expanded on February 16

It's not clear in the article whether Sam Bith killed the three foreigners (and at least 10 other locals) or he simply led the group of Khmer Rouge rebels in the attack. --PFHLai (talk) 02:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The Webster Theater article doesn't have an inline ref. for this fact. BTW, would a hook about the large screen be more interesting? --PFHLai (talk) 02:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Two problems (1) the phrasing suggests that lots of people know the rumour but few know that Hot Chip started it; I suspect in reality most people either don't know the rumour or do know who started it. (2) when I read it I thought Kylie and Hot Chip had made the album together. I suggest instead:
...that a rumour that Kylie Minogue had written a song for Hot Chip's recent album, Made in the Dark, was started by the band themselves? --jnestorius(talk) 22:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever works best is best :). That sounds great :). Seraphim♥ Whipp 11:21, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Length verified, but the hook seems to be a bit misleading. The reference says that he was rewarded for action taken on 4 November 1805, not for the Battle of Trafalgar over a week earlier. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 16:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The hook is accurate, but it describes a confusing situation. The source puts it as "This side action was later deemed to be an extension of the Battle of Trafalgar, in so far as the Trafalgar rewards were concerned." (p. 4, at the bottom). This is indeed why the hook is so interesting. Strachan captured four French ships that had previously escaped Trafalgar. Caught up in the excitement of the victory, the engagement was hailed as the final destruction of the French fleet, and the 'gilding on the gingerbread' of the victory started by Nelson. When in 1806, Parliament voted to give thanks to those who had fought at Trafalgar, and doled out rewards, Strachan and his squadron were specially included. Though the two actions were separate, but they were treated as one in the eyes of Parliament (and by many British), and Strachan was rewarded for the victory despite not having been present at the actual battle. Benea (talk) 18:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't deny that it is interesting, but the hook needs some work. The other souce says "On the 29th of the ensuing January, Sir Richard, for his conduct in the action of the 4th of November, became invested with the order of the Bath (e.g., Knight of the Bath KB); and, about the same time, the rear-admiral, and the captains and officers who served under him received the thanks of parliament. Sir Richard was voted a pension of 1,000 a year." If, as your first source says, this was considered as an extension to the Battle of Trafalgar then the despite not being present at the Battle of Trafalgar part of the hook is incorrect. If it isn't considered part of the Battle of Trafalgar then the Richard Strachan was among those rewarded for the victory part is misleading. Don't get me wrong, I think it would be a good article for DYK, but the hook needs a bit of clarification. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 18:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Technically it's not part of the actual Battle of Trafalgar. We can't therefore say that it is. But the outcome was regarded as the conclusion to the Battle of Trafalgar, therefore he was rewarded as if he had taken part in it. Clarifying it as you say in fact introduces inaccuracy, which is why I phrased it as I did. The facts are 1) Richard Strachan was not present at the Battle of Trafalgar. 2) Richard Strachan wins an engagement some days after the battle, this is seen as the wrapping up of Trafalgar, and consequently he shares in the rewards for Trafalgar handed out the following year by parliament. The hooks are meant to be intriguing and to pique the interest of the reader to go to the article to find out more. The hook as it stands is both accurate, and achieves that aim. Benea (talk) 19:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I still maintain that the hook is inaccurate. Your sources clearly state that he was rewarded for an incident which took place exactly two weeks after the Battle of Trafalgar. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 19:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you have hit the nail very much on the head! As the sources state he was rewarded for an action that took place after the battle had been fought. And as the sources also clearly state, this was nevertheless seen as part of the Battle of Trafalgar in spirit if not in actuality and he was rewarded along with his compatriots who had been physically there, for the decisive victory over the French and Spanish fleets. I'm not saying whether it was right or wrong of parliament back then to decide to do it that way, that was nevertheless the way they did it, and the article merely reports that fact. Its rather confusing and I can see where you've gone wrong but it is nevertheless sourced and true. Benea (talk) 19:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You should lump those identical citations together using ref name= Manxruler (talk) 01:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There also seems to be some discrepancy over how his usccession to the baronetcy should be numbered. See article talk. David Underdown (talk) 16:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And what exactly does the citation "(Maxwell, 1.95)" mean? Manxruler (talk) 08:15, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
'The Creevey papers, ed. H. Maxwell, 2nd edn, 2 vols. (1904)' - it's listed in the references. Can someone check all this properly and decide whether or not it should pass dyk or not? Please bring any suggestions, queries or similar to the article talkpage and not here. Benea (talk) 18:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Schaerbeek Gate in 1612
Schaerbeek Gate in 1612

Articles created/expanded on February 15

  • It's notable in the sense of having been written about in the Antony Dale book Brighton Churches. This is essentially the definitive guide to churches in the city, and by no means features every church and place of worship. Also, it has parish church status in respect of a former village now absorbed within the city. Hassocks5489 (talk) 08:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is a listed building, details now added. David Underdown (talk) 11:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
can't find it. No mention of "eight" ... only the date of closure is given when I search for "Wetsens" .... sorry. gave up. Victuallers (talk) 19:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expired noms

Articles created/expanded on February 14

I think you're right Art, but even including spaces and excluding references, lists, titles etc, it is still only 1,387 characters. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 18:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 13

The article needs more references. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 18:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Forrest Gump is a cult classic??? --74.13.131.83 (talk) 06:23, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is a remake. Isn't a remake. "Believed to be" never makes a wrong or misleading statement right. ...but you knew that... --Wetman (talk) 20:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 12

Which is the intended article? Port of Mainz is used in another hook, which is presently at the end of February 12. Staple right isn't long enough. See #Suggestions for details. Art LaPella (talk) 07:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Port of Mainz has already been featured and Staple right is too short. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 17:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too short. And is the source you linked to an open wiki? If so, it's not reliable? Daniel Case (talk) 21:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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