Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates

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Ismail Haniyeh The United States, Russia, and their respective allies agree to a prisoner exchange of 26 people. Ismail Haniyeh (pictured), the political leader of Hamas, is assassinated in Tehran, Iran. Landslides in Wayanad, India, kill more than 350 people. In Gaelic football, the All-Ireland Senior Football Championship concludes with Armagh defeating Galway in the final. Ongoing: Israel–Hamas war timeline Russian invasion of Ukraine timeline Sudanese civil war timeline Summer Olympics timeline Recent deaths: William Calley Reyes Moronta John Anderson Murray Costello Edna O'Brien Wolfgang Rihm view — page history — related changes — edit

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January 27

Portal:Current events/2021 January 27

January 27, 2021 (2021-01-27) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Somali Civil War Sixteen people are dead and eight injured after three bombs explode in Balad, Mogadishu and Dinsoor. The attacks are claimed by Al-Shabaab. The deadliest attack is in Balad, which result in 14 soldiers killed. (Anadolu Agency) Business and economy Boeing 737 MAX groundings The European Aviation Safety Agency clears the Boeing 737 MAX passenger airliner to return to service in European Union airspace. (AFP via Barron's) GameStop short squeeze A short squeeze causes GameStop stock to increase tremendously after Reddit users predicted a hedge fund closure over the last week. (The Guardian) (AP) Disasters and accidents Dschang bus-truck crash A collision between a bus and a truck in Dschang, West, Cameroon, kills 53 people and leaves 29 others injured with severe burns. (AFP via Manila Bulletin) Mount Merapi on Java, Indonesia, erupts. No casualties have been reported. (The Guardian) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in New Jersey, Variant of Concern 202012/01 New Jersey confirms their first death from the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2 in a person who had "significant underlying conditions." (Patch.com) COVID-19 pandemic in Alabama, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Alabama confirms their first three cases of the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2 in two children and an adult from Montgomery and Jefferson counties. (U.S. News & World Report) COVID-19 pandemic in Mexico Mexico reports a record 27,944 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to over 1.8 million. (Business Standard) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia President Joko Widodo receives his second dose of the Sinovac Biotech vaccine. (Antara News) Indonesia reports a record 387 deaths and 10,974 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide totals to 28,855 deaths and 831,330 recoveries. (detikNews) COVID-19 pandemic in Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina launches a vaccination programme in Bangladesh using the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine. (All India Radio) COVID-19 pandemic in Myanmar Myanmar begins a vaccination programme using the Oxford-AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine. Healthcare workers are the first people to be vaccinated. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Nepal Prime Minister KP Sharma Oli launches a vaccination campaign against COVID-19 in Nepal beginning with 430,000 frontline and healthcare workers. (The Kathmandu Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Cyprus Cyprus announces a cautious easing of the second nationwide lockdown beginning February 1 following a decline in the number of COVID-19 cases that peaked after Christmas. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in North Macedonia, Variant of Concern 202012/01 North Macedonia reports their first case of the B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 in a person with no known travel history who recovered on January 22. (Xinhua) COVID-19 pandemic in Norway Prime Minister Erna Solberg announces the closure of all borders for non-essential travel beginning January 29 in an attempt to reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2 variants into Norway. (Forbes) COVID-19 pandemic in Malta Prime Minister Robert Abela announces the imposition of new measures to stop the curve: restaurants, kiosks, and snack bars must remain closed for the entire month of February from 11:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m., bars are completely closed, recommends that schools postpone the two days of school holidays for Carnival. (Times of Malta) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom Prime Minister Boris Johnson announces the introduction of 10-day hotel quarantine for travellers from 30 high-risk countries, including Brazil, Portugal, South Africa, and all South American nations due to spread of variants of SARS-CoV-2. (The Daily Telegraph) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Morocco Morocco receives half a million doses of the Sinopharm vaccine. (Morocco World News) COVID-19 pandemic in South Africa South Africa approves a vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca for emergency use in the country. (Deccan Herald) COVID-19 pandemic in Chile Chile's health regulator approves a vaccine developed by the University of Oxford and AstraZeneca for emergency use in the country. (Reuters) Law and crime Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot One of the fourteen men accused of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer pleads guilty in a federal court and agrees to testify against his co-defendants. His sentencing is scheduled for July 8. (MLive.com) a 16-year-old far-right extremist boy is arrested in Singapore for plotting attacks against two mosques on the anniversary of the deadly 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings. (Al Jazeera) In the central Indian state of Madhya Pradesh, 100 Hindu activists attack a prayer gathering in the Catholic media center. (UCA News) Politics and elections Statehood movement in the District of Columbia Democrats in the United States Senate introduce a bill that would make Washington, D.C. the 51st state. (CBS News) Decommunization in Ukraine In accordance with decommunization laws, the last statue of Vladimir Lenin in the country (excluding territories currently annexed by Russia or occupied by separatists) is demolished in Odesa Oblast. (Svoboda Radio)

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GameStop short squeeze

Article: GameStop short squeeze (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The GameStop short squeeze causes GameStop stock to jump from $4 to $371.28 after Reddit users predicted a hedge fund closure over the last week. (Post)
News source(s): (The Guardian) (AP News)
Credits:

• Nominated by Elijahandskip (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Big deal in the business world. Article quality isn’t that good, so maybe do “wait” votes until the article is improved. Elijahandskip (talk) 17:26, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose This is honestly the funniest business/economic story I've seen in years. But other than that, it unfortunately doesn't reach the threshold of notability for ITN.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:34, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Support the article is "meh" and could probably just be folded into GameStop but I oppose featuring the Reddit angle in the blurb. The WP:RS mentions reddit but cites "small investors" in general as opposed to something organized in a subreddit. As a market phenomenon though this is interesting, and extreme, and I'd love to see it featured in the box in some capacity. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:36, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

  @LaserLegs: this was split off from r/WallStreetBets. This has attracted significant coverage and (despite the name) now extends to companies other than GameStop, such as AMC. There's no good single article to keep this in. Elliot321 (talk | contribs) 17:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

  Moreover, billionaire investors like Elon Musk are involved. The genie is out of the bottle.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

  Ok, if WP:RS is tying it to a notable subreddit I'll believe you. This nom is dying a quick and gruesome death, but it really is interesting. --LaserLegs (talk) 18:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Strong oppose Unless this leads to a massive market crash, this is stupid antics in the business world and how easy it is for online communities to manipulate it. --Masem (t) 17:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Limited if any lasting impact. Spencer^T•C 17:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose this is trivia and much better suited to DYK. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. This is big news, plenty of coverage. Benjamin (talk) 18:34, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Wait Article quality ATM simple is not very good, but depending on whether Melvin Capital actually goes bankrupt and/or The SEC/platforms like Robinhood change their rules, this event may have a more significant lasting effect. I say wait until a later date when the article is of higher quality and better sourced. A potential day for an ITN listing could be when some sort of permanent change inspired by this event takes place, but I would hold off for now. (I think we can all agree, however, that this is deeply, deeply funny.) Mooeena ● 💌 ● ✒️ ● ❓ 18:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

January 26

Portal:Current events/2021 January 26

January 26, 2021 (2021-01-26) (Tuesday) Armed conflicts and attacks Israeli–Palestinian conflict A Palestinian man, attempting to stab two soldiers at a road junction near Nablus in the West Bank, is shot and killed by an Israeli commander. (Reuters) Disasters and accidents Tornadoes of 2021 List of United States tornadoes in January 2021 An EF3 tornado hits Fultondale, Alabama, killing one person and injuring 30 others. (AP) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 vaccination in the United States President Joe Biden orders an additional 200 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine to be distributed by the end of August. (NBC News) Vice President Kamala Harris and Second Gentleman Doug Emhoff receive their second doses of Moderna's vaccine at the National Institutes of Health center in Bethesda. (The Independent) COVID-19 pandemic in Alaska, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Alaska reports its first case of the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2. (Newsminer) COVID-19 pandemic in Kentucky, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Kentucky reports its first two cases of the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Wisconsin, face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States The Wisconsin State Senate votes to repeal the statewide mask mandate imposed by Governor Tony Evers. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Barbados The Caribbean Public Health Agency reports the presence of B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 in Barbados. (Government Information Service Barbados) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia surpasses one million cases of COVID-19. (Al Jazeera) A record 10,868 recoveries are reported in the past 24 hours. (detikHealth) COVID-19 pandemic in Iran Iran approves the Sputnik V vaccine for use in the country. (Ynet News) COVID-19 pandemic in Thailand Thailand reports a record of 959 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, including 914 cases in Samut Sakhon reported yesterday evening, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 14,646. (Bangkok Post) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Arab Emirates The United Arab Emirates reports a record 3,601 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 285,147. (Arab News) COVID-19 pandemic in Uzbekistan Uzbekistan lifts its restrictions aimed to combat the spread of COVID-19 and announces that concert halls will be allowed to reopen at 50% capacity. (Trend) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland The government extends the Level 5 lockdown restrictions until March 5. They also agree to impose a 14-day mandatory hotel quarantine for all travelers without negative COVID-19 test results as well as all travelers from Brazil and South Africa. (RTÉ) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal reports a record 291 deaths in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 11,012. (Expresso) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom surpasses 100,000 deaths from COVID-19, becoming the fifth country to do so after the United States, Brazil, India, and Mexico. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in South America COVID-19 pandemic in Peru President Francisco Sagasti announces a total lockdown in the capital Lima and nine other regions following a significant increase in COVID-19 cases. (Al Jazeera) The Cayetano Heredia University says that a volunteer in the local trial of a coronavirus vaccine produced by China's Sinopharm Group has died from COVID-19-related pneumonia. The university said that the volunteer had received the placebo. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Colombia The Minister of National Defense of Colombia, Carlos Holmes Trujillo, dies after contracting COVID-19. (Yahoo News) The number of worldwide confirmed COVID-19 cases surpasses 100 million. (NBC News) 2020–21 H5N8 outbreak The highly pathogenic H5N8 avian influenza is reported in two backyard hobby grey crowned cranes in Central Italy, who are killed along with ten healthy birds to prevent spread. (Reuters) Law and crime Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol Acting U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia Michael R. Sherwin announces that 400 suspects have been identified and 135 people have been charged in connection to the storming of the United States Capitol. (ABC News) 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest Samyukt Kisan Morcha protestors storm the Red Fort in Delhi, clashing with police. One protestor is killed and more than 80 police officers are injured. Protest leaders blame the violence on "rogue elements", and say they will continue to dispute the government's agriculture acts. (BBC News) Trump administration family separation policy Acting United States Attorney General Monty Wilkinson announces that President Biden has rescinded the Trump administration's zero-tolerance policy, which led to the separation of over 3,000 migrant families on the Mexico–United States border. (The Washington Post) Colombian businessman Alex Saab, an affiliate of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro who is charged in the United States for alleged money laundering, is placed under house arrest in Cape Verde. (AFP via Manila Standard) Politics and elections 2021 Italian government crisis, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on politics Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte resigns amid a political crisis over the government's handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. (BBC News) Cabinet of Joe Biden The United States Senate votes 78–22 to confirm Antony Blinken as the 71st Secretary of State. (AP)

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RD: Billy Kenoi

Article: Billy Kenoi (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Hawaii News Now
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Johndavies837 (talk · give credit) and CAWylie (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former mayor of Hawaii County, US. Article not bad - Dumelow (talk) 07:44, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment an awful lot of it is sourced to his personal website unless I'm mistaken... The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:57, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right. This shouldn't go up, until it's replaced with an independent source - Dumelow (talk) 09:01, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Neutral Good article, but death source seems suspicious. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:28, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Death source seems fine, it's just all of the sources from his own website. Gex4pls (talk) 15:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: David Washbrook

Article: David Washbrook (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): DailyO
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: British historian. Obituaries are yet to appear in major newspapers. Article (particularly early life) can be beefed up at that point. Article as it stands does meet homepage standards of hygiene. Ktin (talk) 06:17, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:56, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Good article, seems like important guy. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Good to go, although in places the language seems rather erudite. – Sca (talk) 14:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

(Ready) RD: Ron Johnson

Article: Ron Johnson (baseball) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Boston Globe
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 – Muboshgu (talk) 04:22, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Kansas section unreferenced. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• @The Rambling Man: done. —Bloom6132 (talk) 08:46, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support cool beans. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:50, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Good to go. WikiLove Goat (talk) 13:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is good. Gex4pls (talk) 15:39, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Peter Thorburn

Article: Peter Thorburn (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The New Zealand Herald; NZ Rugby; TVNZ
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 02:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Short but meets minimum standards. Later life mentions a blog but doesn't say what it was about? Spencer^T•C 03:53, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Spencer: The source doesn't mention specifically, but I found the blog site (last article written by him posted 9 years ago). Should I add this to the article? —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Eh it's probably something that could be omitted, although since he is a rugby star it's logical that his blog would be about that. Your call really. Spencer^T•C 04:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:54, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted - Dumelow (talk) 09:32, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) New Prime Minister of Estonia

Article: Kaja Kallas (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kaja Kallas becomes the first woman to become Prime Minister of Estonia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Kaja Kallas becomes the Prime Minister of Estonia, the first woman to hold the office.
Alternative blurb II: ​ The new government of Estonia led by Kaja Kallas takes power following Jüri Ratas's resignation due to a corruption scandal.
News source(s): DW, Politico, AP, Guardian, Estonian World
Credits:

• Nominated by NorthernFalcon (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Estonia is getting a new Prime Minister, which is ITN/R, as the Prime Minister is the position with all of the power in the country. This does not follow an election, because the previous Prime Minister resigned due to a scandal. This is particularly noteworthy because Kallas is the first woman to become Prime Minister of Estonia, and Estonia now becomes the only country in the world with both an (elected) female head of state and head of government. While the news broke two days ago, Kallas only officially became Prime Minister this morning, so I am nominating this for today. NorthernFalcon (talk) 18:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Satis. WikiLove Goat (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Looks very well sourced. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Not ITN/R (but should not preclude posting). This is a change of head of government, not head of state. Only changes of the latter are ITN/R. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:29, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  It is ITN/R because it's a change in the national leader, similar to when Boris Johnson took over. The president is a pure figurehead in Estonia.  — Amakuru (talk) 20:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  • We finally fixed that. Changes in head of government are ITNR, and the only stipulation is that if it is elected, and the election is in multiple rounds, only the final round is posted. Restoring ITNR. --LaserLegs (talk) 20:38, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  Howard the Duck (ec) Changes in head of government are now covered by ITNR, it was expanded recently. I think taking up LaserLegs suggestion to base the ITNR listing on List of current heads of state and government(who is highlighted) would provide clearer guidance. 331dot (talk) 20:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

  Okay, if that's the case both the Dutch and Italian (only if a new PM is sworn in) noms should be tagged as ITN/R as well. The actual text has to be edited as there's a bullet about two-round elections below it that seems to be out of place. Changes to heads of government that occur outside of elections do not happen after two-round elections. Howard the Duck (talk) 20:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Thoroughly sourced, sufficiently long, ITN/R.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:34, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support - sourced and ready.BabbaQ (talk) 23:44, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Are Kaja Kallas' "other activities" properly referenced? The main source seems to be her own blog. - Indefensible (talk) 05:25, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment The blurbs are imprecise and they don't indicate what's going on, so I've added a new one to clarify things a bit. The truth is that she formed a new government with a new cabinet, not a mere replacement of the primer minister with minor changes. Also, I don't think the fact she's the first woman to hold the office is more important than tweaking the blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 08:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Per ITNR. STSC (talk) 13:43, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support – Adequate. Prefer Alt1 – although it would be good to get something about it being a coalition government in there but that may be too much detail for a blurb . – Sca (talk) 14:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted  — Amakuru (talk) 15:11, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Carlos Holmes Trujillo

Article: Carlos Holmes Trujillo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): ABC News
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Colombian Minister of Defense dies from COVID-19. Article needs work. Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Need to improve article. (Also, removed the 'posted' part of the submission's title. Didn't belong there.) WikiLove Goat (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Barely any sources, orange tagged and cn tagged. For the millionth time, notability isn't a concern when dealing with RD nominations :/ Gex4pls (talk) 15:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Resignation of Italian Prime Minister

Article: 2021 Italian government crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Italian Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte resigns after weeks of disagreements within the government coalition. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NYT, Guardian
Credits:

• Nominated by Ritchie92 (talk · give credit)

 Ritchie92 (talk) 14:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment While i Support it to be posted as blurb due to significance, i expect that one of two articles may experience persistent IP vandalism. 110.137.190.132 (talk) 14:28, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Reminds me of Dutch resignation. In other words, satis. WikiLove Goat (talk) 15:23, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose - Wait until the new head of state is confirmed. STSC (talk) 18:39, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose it's Italy, standard, so wait for the ITNR change of head of state to happen. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Just FYI, the Prime Minister is not the head of state. Also, there could be no change of PM at all in this case, as he could be re-appointed by the actual head of state (the President of Italy) to form another government. --Ritchie92 (talk) 18:49, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh yeah. Double oppose then. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Wait for the replacement to be announced, but changed in head of government are ITNR now [1] --LaserLegs (talk) 20:40, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

As far as I understand, ITNR is for including recurring events, not for automatically excluding what is not in ITNR. --Ritchie92 (talk) 21:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Wait for a successor to be announced per LaserLegs.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

January 25

Portal:Current events/2021 January 25

January 25, 2021 (2021-01-25) (Monday) Armed conflicts and attacks Insurgency in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa Two senior leaders of the Tehrik-i-Taliban and three other militants are killed during two separate security operations in North Waziristan, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Pakistan. (Al Jazeera) Business and economy Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic Economic impact of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on retail British multinational retailer Debenhams announces that it will permanently close all of its brick and mortar stores in the United Kingdom, with the loss of 12,000 jobs, after being bought by online fashion retailer Boohoo.com. (AFP via RFI) COVID-19 pandemic in South Korea, COVID-19 recession, Economy of South Korea South Korea records its worst annual economic growth since 1998 following the Asian financial crisis. Its gross domestic product contracted 1.0 percent in 2020 from 2019. (AFP via Business Times) Disasters and accidents 2020–21 South-West Indian Ocean cyclone season Cyclone Eloise leaves at least thirteen people dead and more than 8,000 people homeless after making landfall in central Mozambique. Major flooding is also reported in Eswatini, South Africa and Zimbabwe. (Reuters) Nine of the miners who went missing during a mine collapse in Qixia, Shandong, China, are found dead by rescue workers. Yesterday another miner was found dead, bringing the death toll to 10, while eleven others were rescued alive. Another miner is still missing. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, 501.V2 variant President Joe Biden signs an order banning travel from South Africa due to fears of the 501.V2 variant; the ban is expected to take effect on January 30. Additionally, Biden also extends travel restrictions to Brazil, the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, and other European countries, which were expected to expire tomorrow under an executive order signed by former President Donald Trump. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in California California Governor Gavin Newsom lifts the regional stay-at-home order in all areas statewide, including three areas where ICU capacity remains under 15%. (KABC-TV) COVID-19 pandemic in Minnesota, Lineage B.1.1.248 Minnesota reports the first U.S. case of the new variant of SARS-CoV-2 found in Brazil. The patient is a Twin Cities resident who traveled to Brazil. (CNBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Nevada, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Nevada reports their first case of the B.1.1.7 strain of SARS-CoV-2 in a person with no recent travel history. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in Virginia, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Virginia reports their first case of the UK variant of SARS-CoV-2 in a person from Northern Virginia with no recent travel history. (Richmond Times-Dispatch) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario Ontario Premier Doug Ford announces that the second state of emergency in the province will be extended to February 8. (CP24) COVID-19 pandemic in Mexico Mexico's richest person and billionaire Carlos Slim tests positive for COVID-19. (Forbes) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Spain Spain reports a record 93,822 new confirmed cases over the weekend, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 2,593,582. (elDiario) The Prime Minister's Chief of Staff Iván Redondo tests positive for the COVID-19. (La Vanguardia) COVID-19 pandemic in Austria, Face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic Austria begins to require people aged 14 or older to wear FFP2 masks in shops, pharmacies and hospitals, as well as on public transport. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Netherlands, 2021 Dutch curfew riots, social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic More than 180 people were arrested in 10 Dutch cities as protesters against the curfew and lockdown clashed with riot law enforcement overnight for a third night in a row. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Ukraine Ukraine reopens schools, restaurants, and gyms as a tough lockdown aimed to prevent a new wave of COVID-19 was ended. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Bahrain Bahrain approves the Oxford–AstraZeneca vaccine for emergency use in the country. (Al Jazeera) COVID-19 pandemic in Hong Kong Hong Kong approves the BioNTech vaccine for emergency use in the city. (The Standard) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports 9,994 new cases and 10,678 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of recoveries to 809,488. (detikHealth) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey receives 6.5 million doses of the Sinovac Biotech vaccine. (Daily Sabah) COVID-19 pandemic in Australia COVID-19 vaccine The Therapeutic Goods Administration approves the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine for use in Australia. (ABC Australia) Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand, 501.V2 variant Australia suspends their travel bubble with New Zealand for the next 72 hours after New Zealand's first community case in months was confirmed to be of the 501.V2 variant from South Africa. (BBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Zimbabwe Zimbabwe surpasses 1,000 deaths from COVID-19. (Sowetan Live) COVID-19 vaccine Moderna says that their vaccine would work against the new variants found in South Africa and the United Kingdom. (Reuters) International relations Greek–Turkish relations, Aegean dispute, 2020–2021 East Mediterranean crisis The Greek and Turkish governments conduct the two countries' first direct dialogue regarding the dispute since 2016. (AFP via IBTimes) Law and crime Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on religion, COVID-19 pandemic in Nevada The United States Supreme Court declines to hear a case from the Calvary Chapel Dayton Valley, a church in Dayton, Nevada, that faces restrictions from Governor Steve Sisolak, to consider how far the state should go when imposing restrictions on places of worship. (NBC News) Second impeachment trial of Donald Trump The article of impeachment for former U.S. President Donald Trump is brought to the United States Senate, officially triggering the trial, which is scheduled to begin on February 8. (MSN) Transgender personnel in the United States military President Joe Biden repeals the Trump administration's decision to ban transgender people from serving in the United States military. (The Guardian) Mexican drug war Nineteen people are found dead in two vehicles in Camargo, Tamaulipas, near the Mexico–United States border. The victims, who were likely undocumented migrants, were shot and then set on fire. (BBC News) Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol Brandon Straka, the WalkAway movement founder and "Stop the Steal" activist who spoke at a rally held by pro-Trump supporters, is arrested on a felony charge of interfering with police during the storming of the United States Capitol. (Politico) Adass Israel School sex abuse scandal Malka Leifer, the former principal of a Melbourne school who faces 74 charges of child sexual abuse, is extradited to Australia following a six-year delay of the case that allowed for her to be a fugitive in Israel. (AFP via France 24) A driver rams pedestrians with his vehicle during a series of hit-and-runs attack in Portland, Oregon, killing a person and injuring five others. (Oregon Live) Two Swedish filmmakers, who filmed the wreck of the MS Estonia that sank in 1994 for a documentary, face trial for violating a treaty that prohibits visiting the site. (AFP via RTE) The Canada House of Commons votes to call on Prime Minister Justin Trudeau to label the Proud Boys as a terrorist organization. (Bloomberg) Politics and elections 2021 Italian government crisis Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte is set to hand in his resignation tomorrow, due to an ongoing political crisis which began on January 13. (BBC News) Politics of Estonia Kaja Kallas wins the support of the Riigikogu to become the new Prime Minister, the first woman to do so. (ERR) Cabinet of Joe Biden The United States Senate votes 84–15 to confirm Janet Yellen as Treasury Secretary, making her the first woman to serve as head of the Treasury Department. (MarketWatch)

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(Posted) RD: Nilda Pedrosa

Article: Nilda Pedrosa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Miami Herald
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:15, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Full of satis. Reminds me of death of Tunisian politican just recently. WikiLove Goat (talk) 22:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose Support While well sourced, it is almost entirely composed of one off sentences with no real structure or main body, needs some bulking up. Like a whole new article, nice job Bloom. Gex4pls (talk) 00:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• The article is 3,111 characters long, well above the minimum ITN standard of 1,500 characters. —Bloom6132 (talk) 01:19, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• I'm not trying to imply that it's a stub (sorry if that's how my wording came off), just that it's bony, with some sections comprised of just one sentence. If that could be bulked up a bit, then I'd support. Gex4pls (talk) 01:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Gex4pls: done. No worries. —Bloom6132 (talk) 02:36, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 07:57, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

January 24

Portal:Current events/2021 January 24

January 24, 2021 (2021-01-24) (Sunday) Armed conflicts and attacks Mali War Six Malian troops are killed and 18 others are injured in simultaneous jihadist attacks in the central Mopti Region. The military also stated that around 30 militants were also killed in the clashes. (Al Jazeera) Disasters and accidents 2021 Palmas FR plane crash A plane crashes in Palmas, Tocantins, Brazil, killing four Palmas Futebol e Regatas footballers, their team's president, and the pilot. (CNN Brasil) Eleven of the miners who went missing two weeks ago in Qixia, Shandong, China, after the gold mine where they worked collapsed, are rescued alive. Another miner is found dead, while ten others are still missing. (BBC News) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Israel Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic The Israeli cabinet agrees to close Ben Gurion International Airport and ban all incoming and outgoing international passengers from the airport, beginning at midnight tomorrow. Cargo flights, medical evacuations and firefighting flights are exempted from this rule. (The Washington Post) Social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic Clashes broke out in three cities across Israel as police attempted to enforce coronavirus lockdown restrictions in a number of ultra-Orthodox communities. Israel is currently in a COVID-19 pandemic lockdown. (Times of Israel) Israel reports several cases of a faster-spreading variant of SARS-CoV-2, which was recently discovered in the United States. (Haaretz) COVID-19 pandemic in India COVID-19 vaccination in India The Union Health Ministry announces that India has become the fastest nation to reach 1 million doses of the COVID-19 vaccine. (The Economic Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia reports a record 4,427 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of recoveries to 141,446. (The Edge Markets MY) COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Washington, D.C., Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol Around 38 United States Capitol Police officers have tested positive for COVID-19 since the storming of the United States Capitol. (CNN) COVID-19 pandemic in Illinois The Chicago Teachers Union votes to defy an order by the public schools to return to in-person instructions over COVID-19 concerns. (CBS News) COVID-19 pandemic in Mexico Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador announces that he has tested positive for COVID-19 and is receiving medical treatment. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Netherlands, Social impact of the COVID-19 pandemic Rioting youths torched a COVID-19 testing center and threw fireworks at police in the fishing village of Urk overnight into Sunday. (DW) Rioters set fires in the center of Eindhoven and pelted police with rocks at a banned demonstration against coronavirus lockdown measures. Police also faced off with curfew-defying crowds in The Hague, Amsterdam, Enschede, Venlo, Stein, Roermond, Oosterhout, Breda and elsewhere across the Netherlands. More than 100 people have been arrested. It was the worst violence to hit the Netherlands since the pandemic began and the second straight Sunday that police clashed with protesters in Amsterdam. The country has been under a lockdown since December. (AP) (BBC News) (Tasnim) COVID-19 pandemic in France, Travel restrictions related to the COVID-19 pandemic France imposes new border restrictions that require travellers from other European Union countries arriving by air or sea to present negative PCR test results obtained in the previous 72 hours. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal reports a record 275 deaths in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 10,469. (DGS) COVID-19 pandemic in Serbia Serbia reports their first case of the B.1.1.7 variant in a person who travelled from London and later began experiencing mild symptoms. (N1) COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt Egypt launches a vaccination campaign against COVID-19 with the first doses of Sinopharm's vaccine given to healthcare workers in Ismailia. (AP) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand New Zealand health officials report the first community case of COVID-19 in more than two months in a person who travelled from Europe. (Sydney Morning Herald) International relations Russia–United States relations, 2021 Russian protests The Russian government accuses the United States of "interfering in Russian domestic affairs" after some U.S. officials criticized the police crackdown on protests backing jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny. (RFERL) Cross-Strait relations For the second consecutive day, Taiwan reports an incursion of its air defense identification zone by China's People's Liberation Army Air Force. The incursion involved 12 fighter jets, two anti-submarine aircraft and a reconnaissance plane. Taiwan deployed air defence missile systems in response, according to a statement from the Ministry of National Defense. (BBC News) Israel–United Arab Emirates relations, Israel–United Arab Emirates normalization agreement Israel opens an embassy in Abu Dhabi, four months after the signing of the agreement, while the United Arab Emirates approves the establishment of an embassy in Tel Aviv. (AFP via Dawn) Law and crime Central African Republic Civil War The Central African government renders custody of an alleged Séléka commander to the International Criminal Court, where he is expected to face charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. (AFP via Macau Business) List of mass shootings in the United States in 2021 A mass shooting in Indianapolis, Indiana, leaves six dead and one injured. (WXIN-TV) American manufacturer Tesla files a lawsuit against one of its former software engineers for allegedly copying confidential computer scripts onto a personal file hosting service. The former employee denies the company's allegation, claiming he transferred the files by mistake. (AFP via ABS-CBN News) Politics and elections Politics of Estonia The two major political parties Reform Party and Centre Party agree to form a government, whose Prime Minister will be Kaja Kallas, who will become the first female to take the office. She is succeeding Jüri Ratas, who resigned following a corruption scandal that involves his party. (Politico) 2021 Portuguese presidential election Portuguese President Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa is reelected with 60.7% of the vote in Sunday's election. (ABC News) (DW) Proposed second Scottish independence referendum Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon says she intends to hold a "legal referendum" on independence since Brexit removed Scotland from the European Union against its will. Another referendum would require the approval of the United Kingdom's government, which Prime Minister Boris Johnson opposes. (ABC News) (Bloomberg) Science and technology SpaceX successfully launches a record 143 satellites into orbit on a single rocket in its Transporter-1 mission. The payload consisted of 120 CubeSats, 12 microsatellites, 10 Starlink satellites, and 1 transfer stage. It is also the maiden flight of the SHERPA-FX satellite dispenser. (BBC News) Sports 2020 NFL season, 2020–21 NFL playoffs, Super Bowl LV The Tampa Bay Buccaneers beat the Green Bay Packers, 31-26, winning the 2020 NFC Championship and advancing to the Super Bowl. With the Super Bowl being held at the Raymond James Stadium in Tampa, this will be the first time an NFL team will play the championship game on their home field. They will play the Kansas City Chiefs, who beat the Buffalo Bills 38-24 in the 2020 AFC Championship. (CBC) (AP)

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(Posted) RD: Arik Brauer

Article: Arik Brauer (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Der Standard + leading papers in German
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Grimes2 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: no art he didn't do - now referenced and expanded, and on the way to more, but should be enough already Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Weak oppose ref error and one [citation needed] para. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:46, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

 Fixed Grimes2 (talk) 13:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 18:42, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Love article, and famous enough. WikiLove Goat (talk) 22:54, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted Stephen 02:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Joseph Sonnabend

Article: Joseph Sonnabend (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Los Angeles Blade
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: HIV/AIDS researcher, article was rated as GA in 2015. - Indefensible (talk) 03:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support A complete and referenced BLP. A single failed verification tags an inconsequential tidbit. WP:N demonstrated.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

  N demonstrated by the fact he has an article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Guy was important, like the article too. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Added a cn tag but article seems pretty good other than that. Gex4pls (talk) 13:24, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose two inline tags need resolving. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

  Support satis, good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - addressed 2 tags noted above. - Indefensible (talk) 05:03, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support One of the most important figures in the initial AIDS Crisis and helped invent the concept of safer sex; I'd suggest he merits a blurb, rather than just a name entry. May I suggest something like "A pioneer in the early AIDS Crisis in New York, physician and researcher Joseph Sonnabend has died at the age of 88; he co-created the first safer sex information and helped found several AIDS organisations." — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk; please {{ping}} me in replies) 09:13, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted, I think RD is fine here. --Tone 09:20, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

(Pulled) 2021 Portuguese presidential election

Article: 2021 Portuguese presidential election (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa (pictured) is elected for a second term as President of Portugal. (Post)
News source(s): ABC News Correio da Manhã, AP
Credits:

• Nominated by ArionEstar (talk · give credit)

The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: Re-election of a head of state. ArionEstar (talk) 01:09, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support ITN-R This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 02:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Very poor referencing throughout prose (now tagged). No prose Results.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:42, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Satis. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Support 2 cn tags, one orange tag too. This one got cleaned up fast, nice job! Gex4pls (talk) 22:31, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Vacant0 (talk) 14:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support as elections are commonly listed in ITN and they are of international interest (Even if not mentioned much). Elijahandskip (talk) 18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment The elections are ITNR, of course, as long as the target article is up to scratch. In this case, there is no prose in the relevant sections (results? reactions?) and there is an orange tag. This should all be fixed first. --Tone 18:53, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support - looks good. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 02:51, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted - Propose changes at WP:ERRORS - Fuzheado | Talk 06:59, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and pull @Fuzheado: there is no prose for the results, as mentioned by two editors above. This is not ready yet, please pull it.  — Amakuru (talk) 07:10, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Pulled as this article was not ready yet as pointed above. Still lots of missing content. --Tone 07:41, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose until the results section comprises more than just a table. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:02, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Agree with pull. This is not ready - the article is mostly tables and there's no prose at all after the 'electoral system' section. Needs prose content before posting. Modest Genius ^talk 12:00, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: George Armstrong (ice hockey)

Article: George Armstrong (ice hockey) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NHL
Credits:

• Nominated by Indefensible (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Notable professional athlete, article is a GA. - Indefensible (talk) 19:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support good. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Assessed as GA in 2014, but still looks up to snuff. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 21:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: Coaching record and career statistics sections need a ref. Otherwise looks great. Spencer^T•C 22:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Spencer: done. HockeyDB doesn't list him as being the coach in 1977–78, so I've removed that season's row and re-calculated his OHA totals. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Not bad (for a Leaf). InedibleHulk (talk) 02:05, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted, article looks good - Dumelow (talk) 08:21, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand

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Article: COVID-19 pandemic in New Zealand (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ New Zealand health officials reports the first community case of COVID-19 in more than two months in a 56-year-old woman who returned to the country from Europe. (Sydney Morning Herald) ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&action=edit Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

• Nominated by DougEMandy (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 76.182.148.91 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: New Zealand is notable as having eliminated community transmission. Periodic re-introduction of community exposure is significant news in my opinion. The Sydney Morning Herald quotes that a top official suspects transmission during quarantine due to more transmissible variant. DougEMandy (talk) 18:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose as calling out any one country's COVID response (positive/negative/otherwise) is covered by the banner. --Masem (t) 18:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose minor detail in the big story at the top of Template:ITN, good for them making it two months without a single case, I'm jealous. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per previous. Suggest snow. – Sca (talk) 18:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Why call out New Zealand for having one case and not the United States for passing 25 million, or India for passing 10 million, or Micronesia for getting its first case earlier this month? NorthernFalcon (talk) 18:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per NorthernFalcon. I find it absolutely hilarious that a country which has done a stand-up job of containing this unprecedented global pandemic is now somehow considered newsworthy for ascertaining the presence of ONE CASE of COVID-19 while the rest of the world is burning. We could learn a lot from the Kiwis.--WaltCip-(talk) 19:08, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Us New Zealanders have had it pretty good over the last year, and we sure appreciate it. I would not regard it as "being called out" for having a case of community transmission; I'd see it as an incredible effort that it's taken this long until another case escaped into the community. Schwede66 19:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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January 23

Portal:Current events/2021 January 23

January 23, 2021 (2021-01-23) (Saturday) Armed conflicts and attacks ISIL insurgency in Iraq Eleven Popular Mobilization Forces members are killed, including a brigade commander, and ten others wounded in an ambush by suspected Islamic State militants east of Tikrit. (The Arab Weekly) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in North America COVID-19 pandemic in the United States COVID-19 pandemic in Michigan, Variant of Concern 202012/01 The University of Michigan shuts down all sports activities for two weeks after the B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 is discovered in five people with ties to the school. (MLive.com) (MLive.com2) COVID-19 pandemic in North Carolina, Variant of Concern 202012/01 North Carolina reports their first case of the B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 in a person in Mecklenburg County. (Raleigh News and Observer) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington, D.C. Federal officials announce that all indoor portions of the National Mall and memorial parks will be closed to the public to combat the spread of COVID-19. (NBC News) COVID-19 pandemic in Washington (state), Variant of Concern 202012/01 Washington reports their first cases of the B.1.1.7 variant of SARS-CoV-2 in two people residing in Snohomish County. (MyNorthwest.com) COVID-19 pandemic in Canada COVID-19 pandemic in New Brunswick New Brunswick's Edmundston region begins a 14-day lockdown. Non-essential travel is prohibited in and out of the area. In addition, all non-essential businesses, schools and public spaces are closed, and all indoor and outdoor gatherings among people of different households are prohibited. (The Toronto Star) COVID-19 pandemic in Ontario A teen in London, Ontario, dies from COVID-19, making him the youngest person in the area to die from the disease. (CBC) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports a record 9,912 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of recoveries to 791,059. (detikHealth) Indonesian COVID-19 Task Force chairman and Chairman of the National Disaster Management Agency Doni Monardo announces that he has tested positive for COVID-19. (Xinhua) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan Japan surpasses 5,000 deaths from COVID-19. (The Japan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Malaysia Malaysia reports a record 4,275 new confirmed cases and 4,313 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide totals to 180,455 confirmed cases and 137,019 recoveries. (Malay Mail) COVID-19 pandemic in Sri Lanka Health Minister Pavithra Wanniarachchi tests positive for COVID-19 after previously endorsing sorcery and magic potions. (France 24) COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in Norway, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Health authorities impose tougher lockdowns in Oslo and nine neighbouring municipalities due to an increase in cases of a more contagious variant from the UK that also caused two deaths in care home residents yesterday. (VG) (Financial Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal reports a record 15,333 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 624,469. The country also reports a record 274 deaths in the past 24 hours, surpassing 10,000 deaths from COVID-19. (SIC Notícias) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain, Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on the military Chief of the Defence Staff Miguel Ángel Villarroya resigns after he admitted to receiving a dose of the COVID-19 vaccine while not being on the priority list. (AFP via SBS News) COVID-19 pandemic in Turkey Turkey signs a deal with the Russian Direct Investment Fund for the production of its Sputnik V vaccine. (Daily Sabah) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Egypt, COVID-19 vaccine President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi announces that the country will begin vaccinations tomorrow. Medical staff will be the first to receive the vaccine. (Reuters) COVID-19 pandemic in Tunisia Tunisia bans gatherings including demonstrations and extends their curfew to between 8:00 p.m. and 5:00 a.m. local time until February 14 in an attempt to reduce the spread of COVID-19. (The Washington Post) COVID-19 pandemic in Brazil COVID-19 vaccination in Brazil Brazil begins distribution of the AstraZeneca-Oxford University vaccine. (The Hill) Amazonas Governor Wilson Lima announces new, tougher restrictions to curb the spread of COVID-19, beginning January 25. People will only be allowed to leave their homes for essential purposes such grocery shopping. (CNN Brasil) Law and crime 2021 Russian protests, aftermath of the poisoning of Alexei Navalny Over 3,500 people are detained in Russia amid nationwide protests in support of jailed opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Moscow officials say 29 people have received medical assistance in hospitals, while a female protester in Saint Petersburg is currently in intensive care after being kicked by a riot police officer. (DW) (Sky News) (The Moscow Times) Aftermath of the 2021 storming of the United States Capitol Garret Miller, a Texas man who participated in the storming of the United States Capitol, is charged for threatening to assassinate U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. (The Guardian) Police brutality in the United States A Tacoma, Washington police officer drove through a downtown crowd, running over at least one person and sending them to the hospital. The officer was responding to calls that a group of people were blocking a downtown intersection when the crowd surrounded on the police car, Tacoma Police Department said. (NBC) Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest Brazilian indigenous leaders Raoni Metuktire of the Kayapo tribe and Almir Narayamoga Surui of the Paiter Surui tribe call for the International Criminal Court to investigate President Jair Bolsonaro for "crimes against humanity" such as environmental damage to the Amazon rainforest. (France 24)

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(Posted) RD: Robert Rowland

Article: Robert Rowland (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News; The Daily Telegraph
Credits:

• Nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 07:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Refs spot checked, article is complete.130.233.213.199 (talk) 08:35, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article good, worthy for RD spot. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Well reffed, written well. Gex4pls (talk) 13:27, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:04, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:07, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Walter Bernstein

Article: Walter Bernstein (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Patapsco913 (talk · give credit) and Nightscream (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: American screenwriter. Article requires some work, but, not too far away. Edits done. Article looks good for homepage / RD. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 18:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. 20:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article looks in good shape. Good work by Ktin. yorkshiresky (talk) 20:12, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 22:10, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Jonas Gwangwa

Article: Jonas Gwangwa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Al Jazeera
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Noted South African jazz ‘giant. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose about half unreferenced and for a "giant" of jazz, barely above stub. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Almost no important acheivements, unworthy. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Once again, notability is not a concern with RD. Any gripes with the article itself are valid, but please do not oppose RD listings for being un notable :/ Gex4pls (talk) 18:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Roy Torrens

Article: Roy Torrens (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Abishe (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: he was regarded as a pioneer of the success of Ireland national cricket team in international cricket. Abishe (talk) 20:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - actively being updated and may be ready soon, but not yet per orange banner. - Indefensible (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support This looks alright to me, even though it's just barely over stub size. The verification tag seems to only have reflected a previous version of the page, and can probably be removed (though I won't, since I don't know much about cricket). Nohomersryan (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support brief but satis. Good to go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:23, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Insufficient depth of coverage. Would like to see more than 3 sentences about his playing career. Managing and administrative career could be fleshed out too. Overall, falling into "stub" category, as RDs should typically have more than 1 body section. Spencer^T•C 03:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Added some sentences regarding his playing career. I think it should be satisfying to the readers. Abishe (talk) 08:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Worthy for RD spot. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Lil' baby article but well sourced and well written. Gex4pls (talk) 18:58, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment needs another look, consensus is that it's good to go and has had a little expansion. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 08:05, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
•  Posted—Bagumba (talk) 11:08, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) Russian protests

Article: 2021 Russian protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ People across Russia protest against the arrest of Alexey Navalny. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ In 112 Russian cities protesters demand the release of Alexei Navalny, and the resignation of the Vladimir Putin.
News source(s): BBC, AP, Guardian, Reuters, Meduza, The Moscow Times
Credits:

• Nominated by Brandmeister (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Front page news on CNN, BBC, etc. Either blurb or ongoing. Article is currently developing as events are unfolding. Brandmeister^talk 13:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose proseline. The background section is larger than the events themselves. Nothing in the target tells me, the reader, why this matters. 40,000 people marched? From where to where? Then what? Speeches? Police brutality? Putin resigned? What happened? --LaserLegs (talk) 13:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh man, that table, almost all of it cited to Meduza.io which is an aggregator that provides no sources for it's map. Needs an orange tag -- of course it'll go on the main page. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose unless it escalates to something more serious. For now, it seems like Putin firmly keeps everything under control and the number of arrests confirms it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Support – Widely covered. No. 1 story on main Eng.-lang RS sites. (Reuters sez 1,000-plus arrested.) – Sca (talk) 15:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Russian opposition claims 1,600 arrested, but that's not a lot. Also Reuters claims 110k people protested across Russia, but Reuters is an American news organization and is clearly not independent from the U.S. foreign policy so I'm not sure if we can trust them given the state of cold war between the U.S. and Russia.5.44.170.9 (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Per Kiril Simeonovski. Relatively minor protests 5.44.170.9 (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Let me remind users that Navalny became a high-profile international figure last year in connection with the KGB-style nerve-agent attack on him in Russia and his lengthy convalescence in Germany. – Sca (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support it's in the news, significant and large-scale, by the standards of a country as repressive as Russia. 2A02:A451:8B2D:1:C04F:6CAB:4650:3C70 (talk) 16:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support, per IP. This is sufficiently unusual in Russia to merit attention and is being depicted in the press as a make-or-break moment for Navalny's movement. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Once you peel back the hype, isn't notable. We had well over one thousand people arrested in the US the day after the elections with protests in tens of cities, yet nobody even bothered to nom. (Granted 600 arrests were in Minnesota which was already numb from George Floyd protests). Its bigger now (more than one thousand arrested, thankfully no deaths), so disregard previous comment. Albertaont (talk) 19:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Eh, the United States has a history of protest and dissent. Modern Russia does not. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 00:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support. The protests didn't just happen in Moscow, they were nationwide, in 70 cities from the Far East to St Petersburg, according to Giardian[3]. For a repressive authoritarian regime like Putin's Russia that's highly unusual already. The same Guardian article says that "The demonstrations were some of Moscow’s largest since 2012." Although nobody was killed, the authorities used considerable force in dispersing the protests, and again the same article says that "The police at times appeared to be losing control." All of this is usual for Russia Nsk92 (talk) 20:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Unlike previous protests, these ones appear to be occurring nationwide and even in smaller, less notable Russian towns and cities. Twitter made its own news page for the event, calling the footage "remarkable." This thread has more videos of the protests and where they're occurring. Given the context of these protests (Opposition leader Navalny getting poisoned, being transported to Germany for treatment, surviving, and then returning to Russia despite warnings he would be arrested) I think it's important that readers are able to grasp the political momentum that is fomenting in Russia against the actions of Putin. JohnHawkinsBois (talk) 20:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support -I support posting this one because the protests are bigger than usual. And plenty of arrests.BabbaQ (talk) 20:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Washington Post is now saying 70+ cities/towns and over 2,700 arrested. gobonobo ^{+ c} 20:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Vacant0 (talk) 21:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support per scale and location: both unusual and highly newsworthy Kingsif (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support on notability per JoshHawkinsBois. Thousands of peaceful protesters were arrested in only a day, and the protests have already spawned demonstrations of solidarity in other countries.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Wait/Weak Support I would prefer to wait and see if the protests are sustained and escalate to a point of being able to post it on Ongoing as well. However, if the actual "protests" section of the article could be expanded relative to the background section, I wouldn't mind a blurb now. Juxlos (talk) 22:35, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Wait - this probably deserves to be posted, but WP:NOTNP and both the event and article continue to evolve rapidly so it would be better for the article to mature a bit more before posting as a blurb. - Indefensible (talk) 22:41, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support because of the scale of hte protests. Still, Navalny's support in Russia is in the 2% range [4], hence I'm only weakly supporting. Banedon (talk) 22:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment – Posts are running at a 5:2 ratio in favor. Marked needs attn. – Sca (talk) 23:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. I took the liberty of adjusting the blurb for better flow. 331dot (talk) 00:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • The article for Alexei Navalny has his first name ending in an "i" contrary to a "y" in the blurb, should this be changed to match? - Indefensible (talk) 01:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Altblurb Events have developed and the facts I've added make clear what's at stake. Jehochman ^Talk 03:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. The total number of detainees (3352) is a record for the entire history of protest actions in the modern history of Russia. Prior to this, a record number of people in total throughout the country was detained on June 12, 2017 - 1769 people. [5] The highest number of protesters to join an unauthorized rally in Moscow since at least 2013. [6] TarzanASG (talk) 07:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • The number of detainees (1402) has exceeded 1,400 people in Moscow on January 23. This is a record for a single protest rally. [7] TarzanASG (talk) 13:33, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Re-closed) (Posted/Pulled) RD/Blurb: Larry King

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Article: Larry King (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American television and radio host Larry King dies at the age of 87. (Post)
News source(s): Official Twitter The Independent
Credits:

• Nominated by SoWhy (talk · give credit)

Article updated
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Nominator's comments: Announced by his media company. RS should follow pretty soon but that is imho sufficiently reliable. SoWhy 13:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks to 109.249.185.61 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) for adding The Independent source. Regards SoWhy 13:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Patently trolling.
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Should be a blurb. Household name worldwide (quite unlike that literallywho Basketball player we just posted) 5.44.170.9 (talk) 13:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC) We should keep both. No need to knock Hank Aaron (who played baseball, not basketball). UncomfortablySmug (talk) 13:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Blurb: Major household name and easily the most famous on-air talent associated with CNN, especially internationally. His departure from the network also marked a significant turning point for cable news and heralded CNN's decline. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 13:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment just wait: "old man dies" not worthy of a blurb nonsense incoming...!! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Haters gonna hate LaserLegs Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Until his hopsitalization, King was still active as a host, so even less of "old man dies" here. --Masem (t) 14:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

We created RD to keep death blurbs from pushing other stories out of the box, so my threshold for a blurb is very high. No hate here. Will stop being "in the news" Monday morning. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Blurb: Even Swedish media calls him "legendary" (as do French and Spanish). This is someone who made a splash all over the world. --cart-Talk 13:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb: Prefered to be a blurb. Every major news source in Serbia published an article about his death. Vacant0 (talk) 13:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb unless you can update the target article to show how king was "transformative" in the world of talk show interviews. He was no Mike Wallace, for example. We have guidelines for blurbs and King seems to fit RD perfectly. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Mike Who? That's a US POV. --cart-Talk 13:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• You're joking right? Mike Wallace basically invented the confrontational television interview and 60 Minutes was the reference implementation for a television news magazine. Oh and Mike Wallace was a key character in a major motion picture. You're really going to accuse me of "a US POV" when both Larry King and the more accomplished TV news host I compared him to are both American? Really? I mean..... --LaserLegs (talk) 13:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• What I meant was that Wallace might be more famous in the US than King, but living outside the US, I know exactly who King was but had never heard of Wallace. Outside the US, King was synonymous with US television for a long time. --cart-Talk 14:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• I've got no clue who Mike Wallace is either.--WaltCip-(talk) 14:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• From a non-American POV, I’ve never heard of Mike Wallace, but I do know of Larry King. starship.paint (exalt) 14:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Did a little search and King is front page news on French, Spanish, Italian, Japanese, even Russian papers. --cart-Talk 14:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• I subscribe to the view that Larry King was more famous worldwide and that's a very good reason to post a blurb.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Blurb Larry King was famous worldwide - agree with cart, I never heard of Mike Wallace on this side of the world JW 1961 Talk 14:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb if the CNs are fixed. BBC: King was a giant of US broadcasting who achieved worldwide fame for interviewing political leaders and celebrities. AP: King helped define American conversation for a half-century. starship.paint (exalt) 14:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb from another person outside the United States. Like it or not, his name is probably the first one that comes to mind when talking about television.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 14:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment It’s obvious that the most famous television journalist since Cronkite and a cultural icon deserves an entire blurb, not a simple recent death mention. Most people under 60 don’t even know who Mike Wallace is. Trillfendi (talk) 14:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Irrelevant.
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To be fair, I suspect most people under 60 outside the US don't know who Larry King was either, to be honest. Black Kite (talk) 14:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC) Apparently judging by the reaction, that isn’t the case. This was a man who was also in children’s tv shows and movies. Trillfendi (talk) 15:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC) Cronkite who? Anyway, just checked with my partner and my sibling. I didn’t know if they knew of Larry King, but they said yes. starship.paint (exalt) 15:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC) As to Wallace being a character in a major motion picture, IMDb has King appearing in 67 movies. When directors wanted to show how famous the lead character was, they always had her/him being interviewed by King in some montage. This was going on until 2016. --cart-Talk 15:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC) Black Kite, lol I just scraped in - being 60 in a few weeks time from Ireland, most of us would know King :) JW 1961 Talk 15:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC) I knew who he was as well, but I did base that comment on a small representative sample i.e. (a) asking my kids (nope), then (b) asking my wife (answer: "basketball player, isn't he?") Black Kite (talk) 16:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC) The sampling error of that particular subset would make any statistician's head spin.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC) Hey, it was 50% by gender, 50% under-45 and over-45, what more do you want? :) Black Kite (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Blurb Larry King was famous worldwide, he had a 63-year broadcasting career, which included 25 years as an interviewer on CNN's Larry King Live. - agree with cart. AbDaryaee (talk) 14:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb after the few CNs in the article are fixed. Also, this is not appearing as cut-and-dried as Hank Aaron, so recommend we make sure there's a clear concensus on a blurb (RD can go up rather quickly though). --Masem (t) 14:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • In case a blurb is supported, I've got the picture above into image protection queue so that it is ready to go. --Masem (t) 14:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb Easily one of the, if not the, most famous talk show hosts out there. Why are we even talking about Mike Wallace? All coz of Laser "Devil's Advocate" Legs? RIP Larry Kingoflettuce (talk) 14:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose article contains a number of unreferenced claims. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 15:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb just for the record. I suggested this as RD since RD is certain but I agree that he was known around the world. I knew him and my g/f who I just asked knew him as well and we are both German. Not only was he famous for his work, he was also a staple in popular culture. A blurb would be more than appropriate imho. Regards SoWhy 15:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb definitely notable, not only in the US but also in journalism circles. Egeymi (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support – RD only, per TRM, Legs. Where's the transformatization? – Sca (talk) 16:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. We already have Hank Aaron up there atm; two American blurbs is two too many. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

"Please do not oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive."--WaltCip-(talk) 16:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb Miller, Hayley; Moran, Lee (January 23, 2021). "Larry King, Iconic TV And Radio Interviewer, Dies At 87". HuffPost – via Yahoo!. He rose above personal tragedy, financial despair and half a dozen divorces to become one of the most revered and prolific interviewers in broadcasting. Dalton, Andrew; Moore, Frazier. "Larry King, broadcasting giant for half-century, dies at 87 January 23, 2021". Pittsburg Post-Gazette. Associated Press. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 16:50, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Influential in the television broadcasting field, death reported with significant coverage and article in decent shape. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. I'd certainly never heard of him, but most importantly none of the +votes have offered any serious explanation for his transformative importance in the field. There are plenty of high-profile journalists and interviewers but their importance is usually national-only. For what it's worth, I think we did include David Frost in 2013. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Larry King is one of the most influential, well-known, and transformative individuals in the history of broadcasting. I'd suggest reading the article if you've never heard of him. Mlb96 (talk) 20:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment As TRM and I have pointed out, this cannot be posted RD or Blurb until quality issues are resolved. Too many editors are arguing towards importance but forgetting the other major pillar for inclusion in the ITN box. --Masem (t) 17:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

User:Masem Which "quality issues" are there? I think they have all been resolved. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 17:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

There were more before, but there remains the POV orange section tag on the controversy section. --Masem (t) 18:01, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb Once the tag in the “controversies” section is gone, it’s ready to go. Schwede66 18:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb once the orange tag in Controversies is fixed. The article also contradicts itself on King's religious beliefs (Jewish agnostic or fully atheist). Although King was rather old, he was still very active and had a lasting influence in broadcast media. Spengouli (talk) 18:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb One of the most influential talk show hosts of our time. Deserves a blurb. Also marking as ready. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 18:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

On a scale of 1 to 1, how strong is your support? – Sca (talk)

• Comment Fixed the contradictory line about his religion. Basically, I combined the two. TuckerTVG (whaddya want, loser?) 18:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - WP:NOTNP, having the listing in the RD row is enough for encyclopedic coverage and having a blurb will crowd out another entry. - Indefensible (talk) 19:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb per above, and per RS which say he had an international reputation. Davey2116 (talk) 20:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb - He was top field of his work. Interviewing everyone important from top politicians, sportsmen, celebrities over more than 4 decades. BabbaQ (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb. He was popular, but I don't see what's transformative about being on television a long time (especially given that he was never especially praised for his interviewing prowess), and he was in the hospital for over a month, so this is not a surprising death. Also, I promise I'm not some kind of blurb-hating maniac. Nohomersryan (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb King was certainly at the top of his respective field. I can't think of another individual in the television/radio host category as worthy of a blurb as him. He's been on the air for 67 years and is a recognizable name around the world.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 20:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted. I feel like Aaron's picture should get a little more time so I didn't add King's yet. 331dot (talk) 20:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • User:331dot - this entry has support but does not have consensus for posting per the opposes. - Indefensible (talk) 21:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
    • As of this moment I stand by my decision. It's not set in stone, though. 331dot (talk) 21:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• No Blurb, old men die, the name is recognizable enough on its own in RD for those interested in who this time. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb / Pull. I've heard of him, yes, but he's not of the major transformative level that we blurb. Not sure why this was deemed suitable for such an early posting either. Unless it's completely slam dunk and Uncontroversial, like the Hank Aaron case below, it's usual to RD first and let blurb conversation proceed at a leisurely pace.  — Amakuru (talk) 21:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Amakuru I'm not sure what you mean by "early posting"; there are numerous comments above with a good number of people weighing in. We have no arbitrary minimum discussion time. 331dot (talk) 21:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@331dot: I explained what I meant by this above. Several people had already opposed a blurb by the time you posted, and now even more have opposed since. That means it's not Uncontroversial, and as we always do with such cases, we RD it first (assuming quality is OK) while blurb discussion continues. To avoid the unseemly rigmorole of having to pull something that's already been posted. I was questioning why that step was bypassed here. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 22:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm not aware of that bring a formal rule. I evaluated the arguments and made a decision. 331dot (talk) 22:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb I must agree that while a major figure in American journalism, he does not quite rise to the level of blurb worthy in my opinion. Rhino131 (talk) 21:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose/pull blurb I was a fan, but he died of old-age related diseases at 87, and he wasn't "top tier" famous. A big name sure, but most certainly not heads higher than several others in the world of journalism. --Trans-Neptunian object (talk) 21:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment In Larry King vs. Hank Aaron, both "old man dies", I'm always astonished about the VIP treatment US athletes get on ITN, as opposed to US non-sports people who are internationally known. Just saying. I know I can't change that, but it's worth mentioning. (Ok, now let the "you-don't-know-what-you're-talking-about rain" begin.) --cart-Talk 21:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

W.carter I invite you to make nominations of such persons that you think merit posting and convince others to support them. We can only consider what is nominated. 331dot (talk) 21:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I've noticed a few !votes pointing out that he was elderly; I'd like to politely ask that editors avoid those types of rationales in RD blurbs where the notability comes not from the way they died, but what they did with their lives. Any accomplished individual who is at the top of their respective field is more likely to die old than young, so age is not the determining factor here.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  The fact that he's elderly is a relevant factor because it means that his death is not in itself remarkable or independently newsworthy. If he had died unexpectedly at a young age, as say Kobe Bryant did, that changes the equation.  — Amakuru (talk) 22:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Age at death is also the exact hook of the proposed blurbs, what else are we supposed to oppose? InedibleHulk (talk) 22:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Concur with Amakuru and InedibleHulk. Someone who is entirely notable for "What they did with their lives" is on WP:ITNRD as a reason to post someone in RD, not as a blurb. Nohomersryan (talk) 22:17, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Let Me Die A Youngman's Death by Roger McGough. --cart-Talk 22:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• RE: Amakuru and Nohomersryan, both can be reasons why a death is notable (either that the death itself was unexpected or that the individual themselves was notable), but most RDs that get posted as blurbs are deaths of elderly people who died of natural causes, because the determining factor was what they did in their lives. Kobe Bryant dying at a young age was undoubtedly shocking, but this is very rarely the case. Being at the top of one's respective field is almost always the reason for posting. If any editor were to oppose the posting of Aretha Franklin, Stephen Hawking, or Nelson Mandela because they were all between the ages of 76 and 95 and died of natural causes, they would surely be criticized for thinking that their advanced age makes them any less blurb-worthy.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• User:Vanilla Wizard - How is "field" defined? Should Sharon Begley get a blurb for arguably being at the top of her respective field? (See awards section on her article for reference.) - Indefensible (talk) 22:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• That's what the discussion is for; whether an individual is at the top is inherently arbitrary and not for us to decide, it's for sources to decide, and Sharon Begley's passing resulted in nowhere near as many reliable sources covering it. I'm simply arguing that we can and do post the deaths of "major figures" (see WP:ITNRD: "The death of major figures, including transformative world leaders in their field, may merit a blurb."), not just deaths that occur as a result of shocking freak accidents, hence "they were old" shouldn't be considered a valid reason to !vote oppose.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:40, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The blurb is exclusively about the age at which he died. Maybe propose an alternative if you don't want his age to factor in. Not sure where Supporters see any other accomplishment here. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:49, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Do you take issue with the wording of this RD blurb? The format of "(field) (name) died at the age of (age)" is pretty standard.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 22:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Not anymore, it's old news. But yes, should have been RD (two days later at Annan, I voted No blurbs for anyone). At least that one had a cause. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Agree that it is inherently subjective, and what is for Wikipedians to decide is whether it gets posted and/or blurbed or not. Right now there does not seem to be consensus for supporting the blurb whether based on age or otherwise. - Indefensible (talk) 22:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Being at the top of one's respective field is almost always the reason for posting. - The bar is higher than simply being top of one's field, which was the old RD criteria that was rightfully junked. Besides, Franklin and Mandela's deaths were followed by a wave of tributes and lengthy memorials that dominated TV for days after they had passed. King was an elderly TV host who did not die in a surprising way; he won't be top news 24 hours from now. Nohomersryan (talk) 22:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• While we should take into account a person who is simply elder and has not been active for a while in their field (meaning that they should have achieved a greater importance in their youth as was the case of Hank Aaron), until the start of 2021, King was still doing his shows and interviews and showed no sign of slowing down until he was hospitalized by COVID. So this is as surprising a death as something along the lines of Kobe Bryant, in addition to the fact King was a luminary in the field already. --Masem (t) 23:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• So this is as surprising a death as something along the lines of Kobe Bryant Wait, what?? An 87-year-old man who was hospitalized for over a month with a deadly disease is as surprising as a 41-year-old athlete dying suddenly in a helicopter crash? Nohomersryan (talk) 00:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb for the post-posting debate. A world-renowned figure in his field, working up until nearly his death. Kingsif (talk) 21:57, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb he would be famous internationally for the "people with American cable TV" audience, but otherwise I doubt the Mandela/Hawking levels of notability. Was King even top of his field in terms of notability relative to contemporaries? No issue with RD. Juxlos (talk) 22:32, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• His shows were bought by TV-companies and aired in other countries, same as films and series were before cable. --cart-Talk 22:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb American TV isn't available in much of the rest of the world. Banedon (talk) 22:45, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Pulled - Because 6 of the 7 folks who expressed an opinion since the posting were either pull or oppose, it's best to pull it at this time until a consensus develops to post. Courtesy ping: 331dot-- Fuzheado | Talk 22:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Posting to the RD list is probably fine still. - Indefensible (talk) 22:53, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Good point. Done. -- Fuzheado | Talk 22:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Repost as blurb. There was consensus to post as a blurb when it was posted and the given reason for removal is weak. Consensus should be judged as whole and not based on knee-jerk pull comments after the fact. -- Calidum 23:03, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Not quite true: there was already pushback by Indefensible about whether a consensus had been reached at the time of posting, and the addition of 6 out of 7 additional voices to pull/oppose shows there is very unclear consensus here. -- Fuzheado | Talk 23:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Knee-jerk, my foot, I've been blowing this same horn since Kofi kicked off three summers ago. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Hank Aaron a virtually unknown outside the US is posted to Blurb. But Larry King is not per ”being unknown outside the US”. Let that sink in.BabbaQ (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb it's inherently US centric (i'm from Australia); when someone who is one of the top figures in their field (broadcasting) and known worldwide - is seen as less notable than a baseball player (only really big in the US, Japan, Cuba, Mexico and the Dominican Republic) - which proves international notability means nothing in the end. I doubt anyone here would blurb Sadaharu Oh either (or any cricketer like Garfield Sobers or Viv Richards for that matter - which would point towards American sports fanboyism instead and noone actually caring about the sport's international prospects). Unless we are going to claim a CNN show has less international reach than baseball. Only legitimate argument would be that Ted Turner would probably not get a blurb, so a CNN host probably should not! Either way, i support King's blurb. GuzzyG (talk) 23:23, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Arguably the Hank Aaron blurb should be removed and added to the RD list as well per your comment and similar others, that would be better than having them take up ITN blurb space for other encyclopedic content. - Indefensible (talk) 23:34, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
    • I agree. Noone would blurb Barbara Walters so King is in a similar playing field - although he's up there with David Frost and Oriana Fallaci - we'd probably blurb David Attenborough though, so in the end - it's just the person whose field tends to have Wikipedia editors as fans (like Carrie Fisher). Realistically, journalism is a relatively country specific area (although people like King break through internationally sometimes, moreso than a Walter Cronkite type of broadcaster). Sports though i would say only top notch footballers like Pelé (worldwide sport) or Olympic athletes like Michael Phelps (worldwide competition) should be blurbed regularly, with the rare pass for Tiger Woods, Roger Federer and Michael Jordan type athletes that are known worldwide or people like Garry Kasparov with a bit of historical importance behind them (human rights) - most sports are very local ad very rarely are important in different countries than in which they compete. Either way, King's show broadcasted on CNN International; which means he is more international than some people here give him credit - but if we go by the original Thatcher/Mandela standard than none would probably make it, to be honest! GuzzyG (talk) 00:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Definitely the most notable person associated with CNN and probably talk shows in general. Maybe I'm biased by living close to the US but whenever a character in a movie goes on a talk show it always seems to be Larry King. Connor Behan (talk) 23:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Being associated with CNN is not prima facie proof of notability, not even in the U.S. – Sca (talk) 00:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

  "Most notable person associated with CNN" is a different sentence from "notable because he was associated with CNN". Connor Behan (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb -- can we please make a policy that once a blurb is posted, it is not pulled? This is unprofessional. I'd rather we wait a long period of time before blurbing than do this. -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 00:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

  Support such a policy -- this alone is enough of a reason to restore Larry King. It is troubling that an admin thought it was acceptable not only to pull a death blurb but to do so without moving it to RD. Connor Behan (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Meh 1. He is known worldwide, this is not debateable. 2. He was extremely successful and accomplished in his career over the years, in radio and television, by any standard you can name. 3. His article indicates nothing transformative, he didnt pioneer anything, didnt make any great advances to the world of broadcasting/news/interviews etc. He didnt invent the softly softly interviewing technique. He may have been highly influential, but its not in his article, which reads much more like 'This is who he was, what he did' not 'This is what he achieved and improved on compared to others in his field'. If the standard for blurbing is 'transformative', then his article needs something to that effect. If we are happy with just having someone at the top of their game after a long successful life, we need to dump the transformative requirement. Only in death does duty end (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Yes, a well-known figure but doesn't meet the "transformative" standard. P-K3 (talk) 00:26, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb Well known is not the same as important. Quite shocked at the level of support here. I imagine the place King held at CNN when CNN was the be-all-end-all is inflating people's opinion of him. He interviewed everyone because he was such a lightweight. GreatCaesarsGhost 00:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Move Hank Aaron to RD too: no consensus to post there either — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.106.95 (talk) 02:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Strong support blurb Well known around the world (except to young people perhaps) and he was definitely at the top of his field. His death has been reported as a top story not only in the U.S. but also in other countries. Larry King's show, by the way, aired not only on CNN USA but also on CNN International, which is available in many countries. I'm surprised Larry King is being questioned while we have a blurb for Hank Aaron, who I never even heard of. Johndavies837 (talk) 02:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, support RD. It seems that King was pulled ENTIRELY which is very disproportionate. He's easily important enough for RD (unless there's undisclosed BLP issues in the article or the like), but probably borderline for a blurb. (Also, Hank Aaron >>> Larry King, surprised to see that incredulity above... it's not unreasonable for Aaron to get a blurb but not King. TV journalists are common; lifetime homerun record holders are exceedingly rare.) SnowFire (talk) 06:51, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: why is he not in RD???-- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 07:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Already rolled off when Dave Bolton was added. FYI to User:SnowFire as well. Agree that he should be listed for a while longer. - Indefensible (talk) 07:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    • It shouldn't have been. Bolton is the only one on the ticker who passed more recently than King. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 07:13, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
      • They don't do it that way anymore, it seems to be first on/first off. Anyhow, I have re-added this as a 7th RD since it seems like there was a great deal of support and it was hardly on there at all. --Bongwarrior (talk) 07:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, support RD - Only top of a narrow field; I'd say he was an Eddie Van Halen level television host... - Floydian ^τ _¢ 07:16, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb, per User:Vanilla Wizard rationale above. Alexcalamaro (talk) 08:07, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• RD only while very well-known, not transformative. It's pretty hard for a news host to be transformative because they can't proactively change the course of history/academics/sports techniques/jurisprudence/commerce etc in a way that a trailblazing politician/research professor/sportsperson/judge/businessperson could, but that is the lot of a TV host Bumbubookworm (talk) 09:35, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Stats This needs revisiting now that Larry King has scrolled off RD but Hank Aaron is still there with a big picture. King peaked at over 1.5 million views and was still the top read on Wikipedia yesterday with 666K – a figure that Aaron failed to reach at all. The other blurbs are nowhere in this contest – they barely twitched the needle. The general consensus of our readership is clear.

Readership views

Article	7 days to 24 Jan
Larry King	2,185,535
Hank Aaron	1,046,483
LauncherOne	59,781
2021 Russian protests	46,286
2020–21 Central African general election	13,874

Andrew🐉(talk) 09:13, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb and oppose reinserting people who have rolled off as setting a precedent and oppose ITN becoming WP:TOP25 for about the 540th time. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 09:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support re-blurb just to make ourselves look even more ridiculous.--WaltCip-(talk) 13:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) Cyclone Eloise

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Article: Cyclone Eloise (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 13 people are killed from Cyclone Eloise. (Post)
News source(s): ReliefWeb The Guardian Nigeria Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Destroyeraa (talk · give credit)
• Created by Gummycow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by HurricaneEdgar (talk · give credit) and Dam222 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Catastrophic situation unfolding. Uncommonly strong storm heading towards a poor country still recovering from Cyclone Idai, which killed 1,300 people and left 2,200 more missing. More deaths will occur. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 01:43, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support – This storm is still strengthening and is almost guaranteed to continue doing so all the way up to landfall. Which is imminent. The storm is going to strike Mozambique, a country that was devastated by Cyclones Idai and Kenneth back in 2019. The country hasn't yet recovered, and they recently experienced a landfall from Tropical Storm Chalane near the end of last month. This storm is guaranteed to have significant impacts on a region still recovering from a devastating storm, and as such, it warrants an ITN mention. There will be more damage, and there will almost certainly be more deaths. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 01:51, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support, though I would think that the blurb should reflect the strength and ominous nature of the storm. As written, it sounds like a thing that happened and is done with. BD2412 T 01:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Eloise hasn't made landfall yet. It's quickly intensifying though. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 02:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose For now. Don't get too WP:CRYSTAL on us now, the storm hasn't made landfall yet, and so far the death toll is low. (Also, the article needs a bit of improvement) Gex4pls (talk) 02:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I've looked over your sources and it looks like (correct me if I'm wrong) the 3 deaths came from previous rains not associated with the storm, and the only death mentioned is in the reuters article, where they claim that one person has died in Madagascar. Gex4pls (talk) 02:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gex4pls: The 3 deaths were part of the moisture associated with the storm. The Reuters article mentions flooding days before the storm's arrival. The storm was very large and had a large moisture field, with sprawling rainbands. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 02:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh, makes sense then. Sorry about that. Gex4pls (talk) 02:33, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gex4pls: No worries! It's entirely fine to question the deaths/impact of a storm if the source is unclear. Cheers, ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 02:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment didn't we 86 posting some storms at the end of the 2020 Atlantic hurricane season because ITN was "not a storm ticker" or somesuch? What makes Eloise unique? Largest size? Highest wind speed? Largest storm surge? Unseasonable? Exceptionally high death toll or economic impact? Is there anything about this storm other than routine storm doing routine storm things? --LaserLegs (talk) 13:47, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – On lack of significance. The civil war in northern Mozambique, from which half a million have fled, seems far more important than the deaths of four people in a storm. – Sca (talk) 16:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose looks very run-of-the-mill, indeed I've been having stronger gusts outside my house today. Meh. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:07, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment More news articles are still being released about Eloise, so it may be too soon to determine notability. This article came out while I was in the middle of typing this !vote, and it mentions that the threat of floods related to Eloise is still present. It looks like the storm will thankfully be nowhere near as bad as Cyclone Idai was, but it's still possible that it was devastating enough to warrant mentioning it in ITN. I'd give it at least a day to wait for more information about the impact that Eloise had.  Vanilla  Wizard 💙 21:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @The Rambling Man, Sca, Vanilla Wizard, and Gex4pls: Nine people are dead. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 01:40, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose This storm hasn't done anything out of the ordinary. Noah^Talk 02:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Typical aftermath of a tropical cyclone. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Unimportant. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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Ongoing Removal: 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest

Article: 2020–2021 Indian farmers' protest (talk · history · tag)
Ongoing item removal (Post)

Nominator's comments: The last significant update about the protests was a January 12th one-liner when the supreme court suspended the law. [8] The most recent protest was added on January 8th and was about protests which took place on December 24th. [9] Everything else from the 8th till now is ref improvements, copy edits, and commentary from both sides -- not protests. People disagree with laws all the time and make their cases in court, in the media, in elections, etc and that's what's going on here. The article is stale, the story is stale, and it needs to come down. LaserLegs (talk) 00:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

So, I am guessing you are not aware of the recent happenings. The article is in dire need of an update; yes, it needs to be off the main page in its present state. There have been pretty recent and major developments to the case, wherein the government proposed suspension of the said laws while the protesting party refused. There is a plan to take out a major rally on 26 Jan - India's Republic Day. If someone updates the article, this should remain on. It still is a pretty hot topic being covered by international media. 180.151.224.217 (talk) 01:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I don't follow the story, because I honestly don't care about it. I just evaluated the article against the WP:ITN#Ongoing_section criteria. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I honestly don't care about it Uh-huh. That should violate #4. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 05:12, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I read the article, I didn't scour the internet for news about the subject. --LaserLegs (talk) 13:37, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support I agree. Should be removed. WikiLove Goat (talk) 01:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak Oppose For now. All of the recent news about the subject doesn't seem impactful (of the four articles published within a week ago, 2 ([10], [11]) don't mean anything for the story, 1 ([12]) is about how the protests may end, and only 1 ([13]) appears to be real news.) However, it does appear that the people are at least still protesting, with a bit of coverage too. Gex4pls (talk) 13:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Then get it into the target article, that's what we're featuring on the main page for our WP:READERS --LaserLegs (talk) 14:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose - the article could use some updating, but looks like this is still noteworthy and an ongoing event that is not resolved yet. Some sources from a quick search: MSN/Bloomberg, MSN/Hindustan Times - Indefensible (talk) 03:36, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support removal per nom. This is an ongoing issue with items in the Ongoing section. Spencer^T•C 03:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Just looked into it briefly, there were negotiations ongoing between the 2 sides which failed on Friday, and there is another protest planned for the 26th. - Indefensible (talk) 03:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Single sentence bullet point updates (e.g. 2020–2021_Indian_farmers'_protest#Timeline are essentially minimal updates to the article. Without paragraph-length substantial ongoing updates (suggesting that the continuing events are substantially noteworthy), articles should not remain indefinitely in Ongoing. Spencer^T•C 03:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
      • The point is that the protests are not over so the nomination is not accurate, and it should not be removed for that reason. The event is still ongoing, there was a legitimate reason why things calmed down because directly-related negotiations were being held, but no resolution was found. So more protests are expected in the near-term, and it would not be unexpected to see major developments added. - Indefensible (talk) 04:37, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
        • Fair enough; have struck "per nom". I am not supporting removal because of reasons in the nomination stating that the event is stale, rather because the article is not continuing to receive substantial updates with recent events. Although more protests may be expected, possible future events is not a reason to keep a non-updated article in Ongoing. Spencer^T•C 05:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
          • That reason makes more sense and I agree the article could be improved, but contrarily there is no rush to take it down since events in scope of the subject are still active and there is reasonable expectation for near-term developments. Realistically it could be similar to the newly posted Russian protests, it would not be right to take it down for lack of article update and then turn around in a couple days and have to repost it because of a new nomination for the same event IMO, so it would be better to just sit on it a while longer. - Indefensible (talk) 06:03, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The fact that there is going to be a major development in India (Republic Day Jan 26th - protest march in Delhi) which is now 24 hours away suggests we should wait until then. Albertaont (talk) 20:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Which would make one update in two weeks --LaserLegs (talk) 22:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support and thanks to the nominator for the background. If it's been more than a month since the last protest noted in a protest article, then the article is far from sufficiently updated to satisfy Ongoing criteria. Whether protests might happen in the future, and whether those might result in actual article updates is CRYSTAL. Per discussion here, there has been apparently many things going on that haven't gotten into the article; Why should be wait another day to see whether yet another "X thousand people marched in Y city demanding Z" update? If that actually hashes out and it's notable, the article can go back to Ongoing or as a blurb. But this should have come down weeks ago.130.233.213.199 (talk) 09:45, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

No longer CRYSTAL, Republic Day protests are definitely happening. Gex4pls (talk) 13:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose – Still going on: AP BBC Guardian Reuters. – Sca (talk) 13:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose demonstrations just turned violent yesterday. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 14:38, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

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(Posted) RD: Juan Guzmán Tapia

Article: Juan Guzmán Tapia (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post
Credits:

• Nominated by Ktin (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Chilean Judge. Article requires some work to get it to homepage levels of quality. If someone understands the region, you are welcome to lend a hand to make the necessary edits. Edits and content updates done. Article has shaped up to a nice C-class biography. Article is good to go to homepage / RD. Ktin (talk) 23:56, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support A complete and referenced BLP and a clear demonstration of WP:N.130.233.213.199 (talk) 06:46, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Notability isn't a concern with RD, if they have an article they are eligible :/ Gex4pls (talk) 13:50, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Satis. WikiLove Goat (talk) 10:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is long and well sourced. Gex4pls (talk) 13:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support I had planned to nominate him and take advantage of this afternoon to work on his article, so I thank you for the nomination. You've done a great job of updating and it looks ready to be posted on RD.Alsoriano97 (talk) 14:48, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• @Amakuru, Spencer, Stephen, Dumelow, and Bagumba: pardon the intrusion. This article is ready for homepage / RD. Thanks much. Ktin (talk) 17:54, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 22:04, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Luton Shelton

Article: Luton Shelton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Jamaica Football player Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 23:57, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Important enough. WikiLove Goat (talk) 1:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • @WikiLove Goat:, please read WP:ITNRD. As long as they have an article here, any sentient creature is considered automatically important enough for inclusion. The discussion is just about article quality. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Blurb His record (35 goals) matches his age (35 years), very few if any Jamaican football players can top that. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support importance is not a criterion here, and certainly not a blurb. Article is satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose: how many unsourced paragraphs and sections before an article has to be improved before posting? This has to wait 2A00:23C5:E187:5F00:D4D2:4979:ACAD:5237 (talk) 12:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  "Ready" removed, two sentences appear to need a citation, one of which looks like it could just go. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Fixed.Please Take a look.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 20:39, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak oppose Insufficient depth of coverage for his playing career from 2008-2018. At present there are single sentences about a team he played for--what did he do while there? Spencer^T•C 03:48, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: F. X. Sudjasmin

Article: F. X. Sudjasmin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The third deputy chief of staff of the Indonesian Army to come in the RD. Bear with me. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Full of satis. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support relatively okay, few tone issues and only linked to the "Deaths in 2021" list article so could use some links into some real encyclopedic articles. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is fine. Gex4pls (talk) 16:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment marking for attention, has looked ok with support for 18 hours. Still could use being linked into articles beyond the list of deaths. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:04, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted blurb) RD: Hank Aaron

Article: Hank Aaron (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Hank Aaron (pictured), the second highest Major League Baseball career home run leader, dies at the age of 86. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Baseball legend Hank Aaron dies at the age of 86.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Baseball player Hank Aaron dies at the age of 86.
News source(s): https://www.al.com/sports/2021/01/baseball-icon-hank-aaron-dead-at-age-86.html
Credits:

• Nominated by Muboshgu (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The GOAT. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• A blurb maybe? Just putting it out there. 331dot (talk) 15:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb The greatest of all time, and a really well written article too. Not too many recent blurbs in ITN anyways --Rockin (Talk) 15:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Important Enough. Also, liked how you written the article. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb. Yes. Absolutely iconic in his field. Sui generis in every way. Even if you don't follow baseball closely, you've heard the name.--WaltCip-(talk) 16:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Definitely in favor of a blurb. He was the home run king for decades, this should be mentioned. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 16:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb article looks good. I would say he's the most notable player of baseball who was alive yesterday. GreatCaesarsGhost 16:21, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment legends speak for themselves, hence ALT2. The first blurb is too "in-universe". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb per nom. Davey2116 (talk) 16:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Hank Aaron is considered a top 5 baseball player of all time, with only the long deceased Babe Ruth clearly ahead of him. Willie Mays is the only living baseball player on or above Hank Aaron's level (unless we want to include the steroid cheaters). See this as a reference. NorthernFalcon (talk) 16:38, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb (alt2). Article appears to be fully referenced.-- P-K3 (talk) 16:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Alt2 Very big name in baseball. Article is in good shape. Gex4pls (talk) 16:43, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb Hero and history-maker -TenorTwelve (talk) 16:44, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Unanimous support. Now's the admin part to post this. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support blurb. A tremendous baseball player and a civil rights leader. -- Calidum 17:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Blurb Household name even for people who don't follow baseball. Mlb96 (talk) 17:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  I don't disagree with the posting, but I think your idea of what a 'household name' is does not apply to most of the English-speaking world. Modest Genius ^talk 18:46, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  Indeed, I have never read of this man, although I have read of Babe Ruth. starship.paint (exalt) 00:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment @331dot: I don't think anyone is going to judge you if you decide to post this given the unanimous support.--WaltCip-(talk) 17:09, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  You mean we don't need to wait for every timezone to chip in?-- P-K3 (talk) 17:12, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  Got beaten to it, but thanks for the confidence WaltCip. 331dot (talk) 17:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

  If HiLo raises a fuss, we can have that discussion then.--WaltCip-(talk) 18:37, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Posted blurb No-brainer. Will followup on the picture. --Masem (t) 17:14, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
  • And pic in place. --Masem (t) 17:24, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Never heard of him. Support, of course Black Kite (talk) 17:19, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting support - major news. PCN02WPS (talk | contribs) 18:39, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Should be moved to recent deaths. WikiLove Goat (talk 19:10, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Why?--WaltCip-(talk) 19:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Because it is a recent death. WikiLove Goat (talk 20:49, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Important deaths can be posted to ITN, not RD. See Ruth Bader Ginsburg a couple months back. Gex4pls (talk) 20:48, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Note for future reference the "5th greatest" in a sport was herein considered to warrant a full death blurb. 205.175.106.98 (talk) 21:14, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• ... the reason he's being posted is because he is also an extremely important icon in the civil rights movement. He got a standing ovation in the deep south in 1974 for breaking Babe Ruth's record. That's an insane accomplishment. It's not just because of his ranking (which is impressive all on its own). -- Rockstone^{[Send me a message!]} 21:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Futile Oppose He was 86 and died, his real newsworthy accomplishments came decades ago. InedibleHulk (talk) 22:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb, just so it's on the record. I love baseball and Aaron, but I don't see what makes this blurbworthy. This isn't a surprising death, and while it's true he's one of the best to ever swing a bat, he isn't worshipped on the scale of, say, one of the best footballers ever. As for the civil rights angle, it's pretty broad and hard to fit Aaron into as easily as, say, someone like Jackie Robinson. (What makes him greater in that aspect than someone like John Lewis, who was yanked from ITN quite resoundingly?) Nohomersryan (talk) 23:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

He also isn't reviled on the scale of one of the best footballers ever, if you know who I mean. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

yanked from ITN quite resoundingly: Looking back at the the Lewis nom, it seems that 24h of very strong blurb support got pulled for a few hours of non-rebutted, post-blurb opposes. The post-pull comments were harsh on the removal. "resoundingly" is open to debate.—Bagumba (talk) 04:31, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I was referring specifically to the comments made after the posting, which seemed unanimously negative. I figured this would be the same kind of nomination that attracts a flurry of supports for a blurb, only to crumble when it's actually posted. Guess I'm no clairvoyant. Nohomersryan (talk) 05:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Blurb NOTMANDELA. --LaserLegs (talk) 00:11, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Its the "Thatcher–Mandela rule".—Bagumba (talk) 02:50, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Blurb in the strongest terms. This is the whole reason the RD section exists, and quite frankly there are bigger things to put in the news box This post was made by orbitalbuzzsaw gang (talk) 00:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Please propose those "bigger things" for posting. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Post-posting support A legend for the sport of baseball. The fact that there might be other ITN/C is irrelevant. Nihlus 01:20, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Leaning support blurb after the fact, given remarkable achievements both as an athlete and as a civil rights figure. BD2412 T 02:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - unknown to many around the world who died of old-age. I guess only Babe Ruth would have qualified for a blurb. Depressed Desi (talk) 08:59, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Strongly oppose blurb - does not seem to meet the criteria at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Recent_deaths#Blurbs_for_recent_deaths i.e. not a transformative figure on the world stage. Also, completely unknown outside the US. This is a world encyclopedia, not a US encyclopedia. MurielMary (talk) 09:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Not at all. I don't know baseball that well and I don't live in the US but I have heard of Aaron and his death is being reported in the UK (BBC.co.uk, The Guardian, Daily Telegraph etc etc). Also making headlines in other countries such as Canada, Germany, Australia, India etc etc etc. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Global recognition is not a requirement for any ITN posting, if it were, very little would be posted. 331dot (talk) 09:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Observation - this discussion makes an interesting comparison with this one about a different top-of-their-field "national icon" (leaving aside the technical issue of whether that article initially needed a tad more work). Davidships (talk) 11:15, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting support blurb is referred to quite literally as a "legend" of baseball. The "old man dies" argument is ridiculous, do we think if Pele dies we won't blurb it?? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

We're not blurbing Dave Bolton, also referred to quite literally as a "legend". We haven't blurbed a lot of alleged "legends", in a lot of fields. When Pele dies, he'll be called one, too; he'll get the blurb by sheer numbers, I bet, but I already Oppose. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:36, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment I have noticed a few people citing his civil rights accomplishments as reason to post, but I'm not familiar with them and when I go to the article, CTRL+F "civil rights" returns zero results. If it's just his status as an accomplished black player through the civil rights era, I get it but the article doesn't make it seem important (the term "black" is only mentioned twice in the article). I am leaning support though because of his numerous baseball accomplishments and how well-known he was. TarkusAB^talk/contrib 13:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Post posting Support blurb The bottom line is that he was an influential figure and the article is in good shape PERIOD. The “he’s old” argument is overused and frankly a weak one (everyone gets old, even influential figures) TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 16:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

That he got old and died, like everyone who doesn't die young, is the content of the blurb. It doesn't say shit about his feats, his influence or what changes now. The "old man dies" story is overused and weak, hence the routine opposition. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:25, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb - same as for Larry King, WP:NOTNP and having the RD entry is enough for encyclopedic coverage whereas this entry crowds out the space for another entry. - Indefensible (talk) 19:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support blurb The article is in great shape, and has attracted over 500,000 page views yesterday. It's nice to see a black face on the front page after the events of the past two weeks over there, and readers could learn a lot about the United States from this article. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose blurb - Doesn't even seem to be close. This only matters to people who are fans of baseball, and even then it matters less than the results of major baseball events. Banedon (talk) 00:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

  Probably matters to BAME people too don't you think? The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 00:20, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose blurb per Banedon. Larry King was very known outside U.S and his death was reported as a "Breaking News", unlike Hank Aaron, who even his passing has not had an impact on other countries around the world. Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:00, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting Support blurb He was an African American historymaker.-TenorTwelve (talk) 13:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Post-posting oppose. American boomer navelgazing, unknown elsewhere among those who are not fans of his sport. Sandstein 22:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Meherzia Labidi Maïza

Article: Meherzia Labidi Maïza (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Univers News (in French)
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Tunisian politician died overnight of 21/22 January. I've updated the article with her death - Dumelow (talk) 07:56, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Political deaths have value. WikiLove Goat (talk) 16:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support the value of the death, political or otherwise, is irrelevant to this process. The article quality is what we're assessing here and it's satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:10, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment the writing needs to be copyedited now, and there's some conflict over the manner of her death, the prose claims "rumours" about COVID and the categories claims COVID (for example). The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:55, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks The Rambling Man, looks like someone messed up the death section a bit when adding (in good faith) the dispute over cause of death. I've given it a tidy and removed the cause of death category - Dumelow (talk) 11:09, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

No worries, marked for admin attn now. Cheers. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:25, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

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(Ready) RD: Mauricio Herdocia Sacasa

Article: Mauricio Herdocia Sacasa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): La Prensa
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Leading Nicaraguan figure in international law, contributed to major Central American peace accords and development of legal bodies, which he also led. Innisfree987 (talk) 02:52, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good. Adequate depth of coverage and fully referenced; marking "ready". Spencer^T•C 03:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Spencer. Joofjoof (talk) 11:48, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Mongolian Prime Minister resigns

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Article: Ukhnaagiin Khürelsükh (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Prime Minister of Mongolia, Ukhnaagiin Khürelsükh, resigns after COVID-19 protests. (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by 125.165.82.168 (talk · give credit)

 125.165.82.168 (talk) 15:34, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose per orange banner, needs better referencing. - Indefensible (talk) 16:35, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

RD: Henryk Chmielewski (comics)

Article: Henryk Chmielewski (comics) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [14]
Credits:

• Nominated by Periwinklewrinkles (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Papcio Chmiel was a comic book artist, very popular in Poland. Millions (not an exaggeration) of young people were raised on his comics. Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 21:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose. I'd love to support, but the article is almost entirely sourced from the subject's autobiography. — Kpalion^(talk) 22:05, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment - hesitant to support per above, referencing is questionable. - Indefensible (talk) 22:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Nathalie Delon

Article: Nathalie Delon (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC
Credits:

• Nominated by AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Innisfree987 (talk · give credit) and AleatoryPonderings (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 02:30, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Looks good. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 08:13, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fully referenced and updated. MurielMary (talk) 09:58, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Weak support one citation is missing. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:19, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you, sourced now. Innisfree987 (talk) 14:55, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Good to go for about 24 hours now. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:21, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Dave Bolton

Article: Dave Bolton (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News; NSWRL; Wigan Post
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 20:40, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support "stasis" or whatever it is you kids say these days Gex4pls (talk) 21:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support "stacist" or whatever. Well sourced and not a stub. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 03:27, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Blurb Quality is sera, BBC headline screams "legend", no-brainer. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:52, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

  Pointless and disruptive. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis, once I addressed the gratuitous overlinking . (It stands for "satisfactory" for those above struggling with it). The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:26, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 03:31, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
  • User:Spencer - Larry King was posted for less than 24 hours and there was even significant support for a blurb, would it make sense to extend the RD list temporarily and add him back? - Indefensible (talk) 06:11, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Had not realized the posting time; my apologies. ITN needs to better figure out its RD processes, as the turnover time is becoming even shorter and shorter: at present there are 3 "ready" noms, 7 RDs on the template, and there's still not going to be space to keep King in for at least 24 hours. Spencer^T•C 16:05, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Resignation of Canada's Governor General

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Article: Julie Payette (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Governor General of Canada, Julie Payette, resigns following the release of a report by the Privy Council Office accusing her of harassment of civil servants. (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; Toronto Sun
Credits:

• Nominated by Floydian (talk · give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Resignation of Canada's head of state. Not sure if this is ITN/R, but it's the first time in modern history that a governor general has resigned in Canada. Article is decently sourced but will need some improvement (notably under "Honours") Floydian ^τ _¢ 22:50, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Unless I am mistaken, isn't Justin Trudeau the head of state? He's the prime minister. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 23:14, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• No, Trudeau is the head of government. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 23:18, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Sorry, I'm from the U.S. and don't know Canadian politics. I've read that Payette has direct communication with the queen but is not the queen. ~ Destroyeraa🌀🇺🇸 23:19, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

The Queen is the head of state. The governor general is her representative. Howard the Duck (talk) 23:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

No worries, you're already half Canadian with that unnecessary apology :) In commonwealth countries, the Prime Minister is the head of government, and the Queen is head of state. The Governor General is the representative of the Queen for that nation. Purely ceremonial role really, but still a very high ranking political office none-the-less. - Floydian ^τ _¢ 23:22, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

Some Commonwealth countries. There are 31 Commonwealth nations that are republics, and the Queen is not the head of state. -dmmaus (talk) 00:25, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Yes, the governor general is the representative of the head of state of Canada, which makes it a pretty important position, important enough to be listed at List of current heads of state and government. But the Prime Minister is the one with all of the power, so I don't think this is notable enough for ITN, unless we're planning on making positions like the president of Israel, the president of Italy, the prime minister of Bahrain, and other similar positions ITN/R. The one thing that might be notable about this is that Payette is the first governor-general in Canadian history to resign because of a scandal. (P.S. nominator's comment is incorrect, as Romeo LeBlanc also resigned, albeit due to health reasons, so it wasn't a spicy resignation.) NorthernFalcon (talk) 23:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Resignations happen all of the time, and apparently the position is purely ceremonial, so I don't really see the importance here. Gex4pls (talk) 23:45, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Ceremonial position. Unless if it was a significant controversy, this should not be at ITN. LSGH (talk) (contributions) 00:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose No small cheese, she commands the armed forces, but details of the allegations are sketchy now, prone to rumour and innuendo (for starters, the report was not released). InedibleHulk (talk) 00:42, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose unless it triggers a constitutional crisis of King-Byng proportions. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose This resignation doesn't seem to portend anything for now. If it somehow affects the government and Trudeau eventually resigns as a result, then posting a blurb will be a no-brainer.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 12:30, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – Per previous posts regarding slight political significance. – Sca (talk) 14:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

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2021 Baghdad bombings

Article: 2021 Baghdad bombings (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least 32 are killed and 110 are wounded in a suicide attack in Baghdad, Iraq. (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; CNN; Reuters
Credits:

• Nominated by Gex4pls (talk · give credit)
• Created by Ridax2020 (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Gianluigi02 (talk · give credit) and Cerberon-900 (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Major suicide attack, first of it's kind and magnitude in 3 years. Gex4pls (talk) 22:24, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support - easily notable enough & the article is sufficient. Jim Michael (talk) 22:38, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support: Definitely a major news story that merits greater coverage, especially given the U.S.' role in creating these conditions. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 23:16, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Missing too much Who, How and Why. Basically a stub, like a hundred before. These feeling new again is no excuse. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

ISIL claimed it; explosive belts, strapped to the bombers in a busy marketplace; to try to force Iraq to submit to becoming part of an ISIL-ruled caliphate.

Had this happened in the Western world, it would have been posted within minutes of being nominated, with every comment strongly in favour of that. Suicide bombings having been common in Iraq from 2003-2017 doesn't make this double bombing less notable. Jim Michael (talk) 10:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support – Per previous. The first such attack in three years; claimed by 'IS' – with more than 100 wounded. – Sca (talk) 14:29, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

For the 999th time, IS isn't an "IS-affiliated website", Amaq News Agency is (social media presence, anyway). Seriously, this isn't hard, never has been. Simply read past the headlines, read past the headlines, read past the headlines! InedibleHulk (talk) 04:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Amaq is the propaganda arm of IS. Jim Michael (talk) 12:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

And The Washington Post is the propaganda arm of Amazon. CNN and Fox have their favoured subnational entities, too. There's a clear difference between any thing and an affiliate of the same distinct but related thing. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support I can see this event important enough. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Significant death toll, international coverage and good article quality. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:59, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment this really is another disaster stub, and like every other one we post it'll not be expanded once it rolls off the main page. No one will ever be held to account for it, nothing will change in the Iraqi security situation because of it, once the wire services stop covering it the English speaking world will never think of it again, unless it's needed as filler for OTD. Could we please stop posting these rubbish articles? --LaserLegs (talk) 20:41, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

LaserLegs Could you stop putting the English speaking world over everyone else? A person killed in a bombing in Iraq is no less significant than one in the States. Just because people there don't/can't edit here doesn't make it less newsworthy. 180.151.224.217 (talk) 01:44, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

People in Iraq can edit en WP, providing they understand English & have internet access. Jim Michael (talk) 12:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

It's the English Wikipedia. Not sure what else to say. --LaserLegs (talk) 02:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Writing in English doesn't mean that we should favour the Anglosphere. Prosecution & change in a country's situation aren't requirements for posting. If you think the article could & should be improved, you're welcome to do so. Jim Michael (talk) 12:18, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose like LaserLegs says, this has almost no value from an encyclopedic perspective and could be covered in a single line in a "list of terrorist attacks in Iraq" article. There's no long-lasting value, nothing will change as a result of this, no-one notable was killed, nothing notable was destroyed. It doesn't make it any less tragic but it does call into question the entire EV of the story and certainly isn't something I'd expect to see in the top 365 news stories of this year. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 12:28, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

It couldn't be covered in a single line, or even a single, short paragraph. Your arguments could be used to reject the vast majority of mass murders. Would you be against posting this article had this double suicide bombing which killed over 30 people happened in NYC, London or Paris? The mass media give stories priority based on popularity, but we don't. Jim Michael (talk) 12:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes it could. "A double bombing in Baghdad which killed 32 people was claimed by IS. Everyone else condemned it." And yes, I regularly vote down "mass murders" in regions where mass murders are commonplace. It would be fascinating to see where this article is in a year. As LaserLegs calls them, they are "disaster stubs" and usually remain that way, simply because they have no encyclopedic value. And yes, if a double suicide bombing afflicted New York, London, or Paris, of course it would be newsworthy, because they are not war zones and mass murder through bombings in those locations is far from commonplace. This is about context. This particular event would not make the top 365 news stories of the year. Probably not even the top 1000. See also: Category:Suicide bombings in Baghdad, Category:Suicide bombings in London, Category:Suicide bombings in New York and Category:Suicide bombings in Paris. Cheers! The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:16, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Mass murders ceased to be common in Iraq 3 years ago. Many fatal bombings have occurred in London and Paris (London attack & Paris attacks lists them). The main reason for there being less media coverage of the Baghdad bombings is that the public are less interested in them. Jim Michael (talk) 13:42, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

The categories speak for themselves. "many fatal bombings" have NOT occurred in London and Paris in the past 30 years. And certainly not with 32 deaths. But nice try. Nothing more to say than the two sentences I suggested for this "news". The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 21:00, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Bingo. Less interest, less coverage, less article information. If a single victim or killer profile ever emerges in English from this objectively obscure and very different story, I'll eat my left shoe. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:56, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Unlike the mass media, we don't measure importance by popularity. A perpetrator or victim of a mass murder having their own article isn't a requirement to be posted to ITN and there's no article about any of the people involved in the large majority of our articles about mass murders.

If you think the article is missing info it should include, you're welcome to add it. Jim Michael (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I think you've nailed it. There's literally nothing notable to report about this event, just a location, a date, a number and a perp. And the usual "everyone condemned it" blather. Two sentences in a list. Job done. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 11:01, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

I wrote "profile", not "article". As I used to regularly remind you years ago, reading genuinely helps when arguing about mass murder norms. We have no names, no ages, no hometowns; if this was about London, Paris or Tokyo (which it isn't), we would. InedibleHulk (talk) 23:28, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

The media haven't said anything about the identities of the bombers or victims. Even if names & profiles of the victims were released, we tend not to include them in articles about mass murders. Jim Michael (talk) 10:33, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Per other supporters. ArionEstar (talk) 01:15, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment The article is in no better shape today than it was 4 days ago, when it was nominated. In fact, it might even be a little worse off. "Disaster stub" is pretty apt. Apparently, nothing of note about this has come out or been added, and I highly doubt that another 4 or 40 or 400 days will improve things.130.233.213.199 (talk) 10:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Suicide bombings are much more often described as mass murders &/or terrorist attacks than as disasters. Although they can be classed as a type of man-made disaster, the term disaster is much more often used to describe natural & accidental events.

The length & quality of the article are sufficient for ITN. It would be improved significantly if it were posted, because it would greatly increase the number of people who read & edit it. Most of our readers probably don't even know that it happened. Jim Michael (talk) 10:33, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

It wouldn't improve at all, there's literally nothing more to add to it. As noted, could be adequately covered in two (or three, at a push) sentences. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 13:23, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support - Newsworthy current event with significant number of deaths. STSC (talk) 12:12, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Limited depth of coverage in the article, essentially a disaster stub as mentioned above. Spencer^T•C 22:24, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) Kamala Harris

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Article: Kamala Harris (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Kamala Harris becomes the first female, Black, and Asian Vice President of the United States (Post)
News source(s): Washington Post; NYTimes; The Guardian; Hong Kong Standard
Article updated

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (January 20)

• Support This is a history setting event in the United States and was globally covered in the top news. It was also one of the highest viewed inaugurations due in part to enforcement of pandemic social distancing rules and the security crisis in the wake the pro-Trump attack on the US Capitol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:85:C100:16A1:0:0:0:1006 (talk) 02:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment Please use Template:ITN candidate for this (and future) nominations, as RD (Recent Deaths) implies that the subject has died, which is not the case in this situation. Gex4pls (talk) 03:05, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose We have posted the elections but not the inauguration per consensus. I think this blurb is a trivial extension of the inauguration. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 04:04, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose The election result was posted on ITN in November; there is no need to post an ITN item for the inauguration as well. Chrisclear (talk) 04:48, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Affirmed at the point of the election results. --Masem (t) 04:59, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose Due to fact it needs to respect the election results that was posted in WP:ITN in November 2020, which she already won alongside with Joe Biden. 180.242.50.227 (talk) 05:13, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose: Contrary to popular belief, being born a certain way is not an accomplishment, nor is it a matter of historical import. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 06:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose and closer per WP:SNOW. This is pure trivia. Also, the blurb is racist.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:39, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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January 20

Portal:Current events/2021 January 20

January 20, 2021 (2021-01-20) (Wednesday) Armed conflicts and attacks War in Afghanistan 2021 Afghanistan attacks Three Afghan soldiers are killed and four others are wounded in an attack on their vehicle by unidentified gunmen in Herat Province. (Tolo News) Arts and culture Events affected by the COVID-19 pandemic, COVID-19 pandemic in the Republic of Ireland Dublin cancels their annual Saint Patrick's Day festival for the second year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. The event will instead be held virtually on a special online TV channel. (RTÉ) Cork, Limerick, and Ennis have all cancelled their respective Saint Patrick's Day parades for the second year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. (RTÉ) Disasters and accidents 2021 Madrid explosion An explosion caused by a gas leak at a residence for priests in Madrid, Spain results in four fatalities and injures ten others. It also partially destroys the residence. (Reuters) A boat carrying migrants from West Africa capsizes in the Mediterranean Sea off the coast of Libya, resulting in 43 fatalities. (France 24) An explosion caused by coal dust and air in a thermal power plant in Angren, Uzbekistan kills three workers and leaves three others injured. (Xinhua) Health and environment COVID-19 pandemic COVID-19 pandemic in Europe COVID-19 pandemic in the Netherlands The Netherlands bans all flights from the United Kingdom, South Africa and all South American countries beginning January 23 in order to reduce the spread of more contagious variants of SARS-CoV-2. (NL Times) Prime Minister Mark Rutte issues a statement that would ask the parliament to vote regarding a weekend curfew from 8.30 p.m. to 4.30 a.m. in a parliamentary debate that will begin tomorrow. (Dutch News) COVID-19 pandemic in Andorra Andorra begins its vaccination campaign against COVID-19. (Periòdic d'Andorra) COVID-19 pandemic in Portugal Portugal reports a record 14,647 new confirmed cases and 219 deaths in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide totals to 581,605 confirmed cases and 9,465 deaths. (Bloomberg) (SIC Notícias) COVID-19 pandemic in Russia The Russian Direct Investment Fund files the registration of the Sputnik V vaccine with the European Medicines Agency with the first review expected in February. (The Moscow Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Spain Spain reports a record 41,576 new confirmed cases in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of confirmed cases to 2,412,318. (elDiario.es) COVID-19 pandemic in the United Kingdom The United Kingdom reports a record 1,820 deaths in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 93,290. (ITV) COVID-19 pandemic in Asia COVID-19 pandemic in India India begins exporting the Oxford–AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine to Bhutan and Maldives. (Hindustan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Indonesia Indonesia reports a record 9,755 recoveries in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide total of recoveries to 763,703. (Okezone) COVID-19 pandemic in Lebanon Lebanon reports a record 61 new deaths in the past 24 hours, bringing the nationwide death toll to 2,084. (The961) COVID-19 pandemic in Japan The government reaches an agreement with Pfizer for an additional 12 million doses of their vaccine. (The Japan Times) COVID-19 pandemic in mainland China, Variant of Concern 202012/01 Beijing impose a partial lockdown in five neighbourhoods after two cases in Daxing were linked to B.1.1.7 variant found in the United Kingdom. (AFP via Barron's) COVID-19 pandemic in the Philippines The Philippines surpasses 10,000 deaths from COVID-19. (GMA News) COVID-19 pandemic in Africa COVID-19 pandemic in Kenya, 501.V2 variant Acting Health Director-General Patrick Amoth confirms the first cases of the variant found in South Africa. The patients are two people who had traveled to that country. (Kenyans.co.ke) COVID-19 pandemic in Zimbabwe Zimbabwe's International Trade and Foreign Minister Sibusiso Moyo dies due to complications from COVID-19. (News24) COVID-19 pandemic in the United States Face masks during the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States President Joe Biden signs an executive order mandating face masks on federal property and during interstate travel. (Reuters) The United States reports a record 4,409 deaths in the past 24 hours. (Financial Times) COVID-19 pandemic in Chile Chile approves the CoronaVac vaccine developed by Sinovac for emergency use in the country. (MedicalXpress) 2020–21 H5N8 outbreak Iraq reports an outbreak of highly pathogenic H5N8 bird flu in the city of Samarra. (Reuters) International relations China–United States relations The Chinese foreign ministry places sanctions on 28 members of the outgoing Trump administration, including former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, former National Security Advisor John Bolton, and former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon. The sanctions are believed to be in response to Pompeo's announcement on Tuesday that the internment of Muslim Uyghurs constitutes genocide. (Reuters) Politics and elections Presidency of Joe Biden Inauguration of Joe Biden Joe Biden is sworn in as the 46th President of the United States. (BBC News) Kamala Harris is sworn in as the 49th Vice President of the United States, making her the first woman, first Indian American in United States history to hold the office. (The Washington Post) Donald Trump becomes the first outgoing president to refuse to attend his successor's inauguration since Andrew Johnson, who did not attend Ulysses S. Grant's inauguration in 1869. (The New York Times) Cabinet of Joe Biden The Senate votes to confirm Avril Haines, Biden's nominee for United States Director of National Intelligence (DNI), 84-10. Haines is the first Biden appointee to be confirmed by the Senate, and the first woman to serve in the DNI. (CBS News) Biden signs his first executive orders reversing several Trump administration decisions, including rejoining the Paris Agreement and the World Health Organization, repealing 2017 travel bans, ending funding for the United States–Mexico border wall, and revoking the permit for the Keystone XL pipeline. (BBC News) (NBC News) (The Guardian) 117th United States Congress 2020 United States Senate election in Georgia, 2020 United States Senate special election in Georgia Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock of Georgia are officially sworn in as Senators of the United States Senate. (USA Today) Alex Padilla of California is officially sworn in as Senator of the United States Senate, as an appointee replacing Kamala Harris. (LA Times)

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(Posted) RD: Aslan Byutukayev

Article: Aslan Byutukayev (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
Credits:

• Nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)
• Updated by 31.204.103.203 (talk · give credit), Каракорум (talk · give credit) and Davidgoodheart (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A member of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. I don't know if this is appropriate to put it in the RD section. I would withdraw this RD nom if deemed inappropriate. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 04:54, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment Once the person has an article they are deemed notable enough for RD, So the only things that have to be checked are quality of the article and its referencing (I'll come back and read this one later) JW 1961 Talk 14:14, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Seems fine to me. @Joseywales1961:, did you have an opinion? Otherwise, seems ready to me. —Brigade Piron (talk) 17:21, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes it looks fine for RD Support JW 1961 Talk 20:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment has support, can't read most of the refs myself, but marking for admin attn. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 16:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mira Furlan

Article: Mira Furlan (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Variety
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)
• Updated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Actress best known for playing Delenn on Babylon 5. Prose in good shape but short filmography needs sourcing. Masem (t) 05:11, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment – filmography all sourced now. —Bloom6132 (talk) 10:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support - Brief article, but I think sufficient for an RD and now fully sourced. Took the liberty of removing an IP edit that had snuck in an unsourced addition to the filmography. Miyagawa (talk) 17:33, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Satis. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support. Sad and unexpected, but the article seems in good order. Nsk92 (talk) 22:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• @Spencer, Stephen, Black Kite, and Dumelow: I think this may be ready to go. —Bloom6132 (talk) 23:22, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 03:29, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Mulyadi Tamsir

Article: Mulyadi Tamsir (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Sindonews
Credits:

• Nominated by Jeromi Mikhael (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Victim of the Sriwijaya Air 182; body has just been identified on 20 January. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 15:20, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Weak OpposeSupport Well sourced but a stub, only has two sections. Article's been fixed up now. Changing to support.Gex4pls (talk) 16:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

@Gex4pls: I'll change it to a start. It is over 300 char above stub if we used the DYK counter. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 16:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Weak oppose Limited depth of coverage, per above. Spencer^T•C 02:15, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment @Gex4pls and Spencer: I have expanded the article by two-and-a-half fold, please check again. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 12:51, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Nice job, I think the Personal Life and Death sections could be merged, but other than that seems good. Gex4pls (talk) 13:26, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support I hadn't seen the article before the recent expansion, but certainly the current version meets the requirements IMO. Miyagawa (talk) 17:35, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Important Enough. Also, liked how you written the article. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
• Posted to RD. Much improved, nice work. Spencer^T•C 21:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: John Baptist Kaggwa

Article: John Baptist Kaggwa (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Monitor (Uganda)
Credits:

• Nominated by Dumelow (talk · give credit)
• Updated by RFD (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Ugandan Roman Catholic bishop. Looks to be reasonable - Dumelow (talk) 08:34, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support just. Brief but satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 14:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Meh. Pretty fine all around. Gex4pls (talk) 16:06, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose At present, essentially a resume in prose format with limited depth of coverage. Spencer^T•C 01:08, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Spencer, I've added some more information now if you'd be able to take another look - Dumelow (talk) 10:13, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, missed the ping. My apologies for the delay. Spencer^T•C 03:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose Not important enough, but liked how you written the article. WikiLove Goat (talk 16:05, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

@WikiLove Goat:Notability is no longer a restraint on RD noms, if they have an article they are eligible :/ Gex4pls (talk) 18:36, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

• Posted to RD. Spencer^T•C 03:22, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: James Cross

Article: James Cross (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): CBC News; CTV News; Montreal Gazette
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Only announced and reported today (January 20) Bloom6132 (talk) 00:17, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support Article is pretty good, but a bit on the short side. Gex4pls (talk) 00:40, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Article is well referenced and in good shape. Key figure in one of the biggest incidents in Canadian politics. GaryColemanFan (talk) 03:25, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment: the "histori.ca" and "crimelibrary.com" domains no longer appear to be active so it's hard to judge their reliability. Any opinions? - Dumelow (talk) 16:01, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• @Dumelow: The first is a reliable source from Historica Canada (and the archive info has now been updated by another editor). I've replaced the second source with an entry from The Canadian Encyclopedia (which is published online by Historica). —Bloom6132 (talk) 18:44, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

• Posted, thanks for the extra info - Dumelow (talk) 19:32, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

(Posted) RD: Sibusiso Moyo

Article: Sibusiso Moyo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Associated Press; BBC News; Reuters
Credits:

• Updated and nominated by Bloom6132 (talk · give credit)

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Bloom6132 (talk) 19:54, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Support satis. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Support Fine article, could use a little bulking up. Gex4pls (talk) 21:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Posted - Dumelow (talk) 08:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

(Closed) 2021 Madrid explosion

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Article: 2021 Madrid explosion (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ An explosion caused by a gas leak in Madrid, Spain kills at least three people and injures at least eight others. (Post)
News source(s): CNN, BBC
Credits:

• Nominated by Masem (talk · give credit)

Nominator's comments: Article is a light at the moment as this has just happened and news networks are likely focused elsewhere. Masem (t) 17:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose Gas explosions which cause fatalities are common. Frankly, I question whether this incident is even notable enough to have an article. Mlb96 (talk) 19:59, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose – "Caused by a gas leak." [15] Fairly frequent. Minor. – Sca (talk) 20:17, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose accident, hard to believe it even warrants an encyclopedic article. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 20:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose not a national catastrophe like the Beirut explosion Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:44, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose There have been many explosions with higher death counts within the last two months, and we don't post those (for good reason) Gex4pls (talk) 21:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

BBC seems to have killed their story – at least the link doesn't work anymore. – Sca (talk) 23:10, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Because there's an errant "n" in the URL. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 23:12, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Oh. Fixed. – Sca (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

For context, in the time since nommed an explosion at an uzbekistani power plant has killed three.[16] Gex4pls (talk) 02:56, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

And 32 killed by suicide bombers in Baghdad. [17] – Sca (talk) 15:41, 21 January 2021 (UTC)

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(Closed) Inauguration of Joe Biden

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Article: Inauguration of Joe Biden (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Joe Biden is inaugurated (Post)
News source(s): https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/live-blog/2021-01-19-biden-inauguration-n1254610
Credits:

• Nominated by Chrisclear (talk · give credit)

• Oppose Biden's election was posted on ITN in November; there is no need to post an ITN item for his inauguration as well. Chrisclear (talk) 10:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• (ec) We don't usually post inaugurations, which are just formalities; we posted the election. We did post Obama's first one due to its unique nature, but the only first Biden is setting is that he is old. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • Comment I agree that this item should not be posted. Chrisclear (talk) 10:09, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Chrisclear Why did you nominate it if you don't think it should be posted? 331dot (talk) 10:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
      • Because I might not be on Wikipedia in a few hours to oppose it then. Chrisclear (talk) 10:18, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
        • Chrisclear Please don't make a nomination unless you support the item being nominated. We don't preemptively nominate something to reject it, especially if the only reason is because the nominator simply won't be on Wikipedia later. That's just the way it is, none of us can be here 24/7. As I said, we don't generally post inaugurations. In the event that it was posted per a consensus, consensus can change; we can and have removed posted items. 331dot (talk) 10:30, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
          • Regarding "We don't preemptively nominate something to reject it", is that a policy or something you are merely requesting? Chrisclear (talk) 10:36, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
            • I'm not sure what the difference is, given that many practices here are not written down, but I am requesting that you not preemptively nominate something for the simple reason that you won't be around when it might be nominated. If everyone did that, this page would be impossible to manage, sorting out good faith nominations from those just wanting to get their opinion in. The instructions on this page are for those who wish to "suggest a candidate"; you are not suggesting a candidate, you are preemptively nominating something you don't want. That is not nominating a candidate. 331dot (talk) 10:53, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
  • (ec) Just to make sure, you made a nomination with the rationale that it should not be posted? Did we post Trump's? If not, we probably should not post Biden's either, unless there is some extra addition to the blurb, like the extraordinary level of security (which is what is a thing most media focus on these days). --Tone 10:16, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
    • Tone Noting that we did not post the Trump inauguration(hard to link to but the discussion is in the archive). We did post Obama's due to its historic nature. 331dot (talk) 11:05, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

      331dot, here's the link for the Trump inauguration: [[Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates/January_2017#[Closed]_Inauguration_of_Donald_Trump]] Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 11:11, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose and close. The Nominator doesn't even want this posted, so why are we discussing it? As above, we posted the election and there's no need to also post the inauguration as it follows directly from that. Unless some unrest occurs or something, but that would be a separate story in its own right to be discussed if and when it happens.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:20, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose of course if something untoward happens like one of the orange followers goes rogue, we can consider it, but this is a run-of-the-mill part of the process, not noteworthy. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:25, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

*Support I hate to be different this time but I think I should. The inauguration event would be one of the most watched event this world. Even from my-country-centric point of view this is very notable. One of the main tv channel in my country has even scheduled a live report. This, this, and this too. If the nominator opposes this I'll take over. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 10:45, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Jeromi Mikhael This is just a formality; it has long been known Biden will be president starting at noon(even if Trump and the rioters did not know). No first is being set here as with Obama. 331dot (talk) 10:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Argh, this again. If that's the case then there should be an ITN policy that says "do not nominate news items that discuss a) regular events with a clearly determined outcome beforehand; b) ceremonies and formalities" Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:04, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Jeromi Mikhael We used to list it in ITNR as something we don't do, but it was removed. The election was the notable story here, not the formalization of its result. 331dot (talk) 11:07, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, if that's the case. I believe I'm not a newcomer here, but the lack of any formal criterion for ITN blurbs still confuses me to this day. I see that "The election, not the inauguration" has already been an informal criterion amongst the regulars here. Someone should really make an unofficial guide to ITN blurbs. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:13, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose The results of the elections have already been posted. Yes, it will be an act seen by millions of people around the world (including me), but it's still something ordinary that, as they say above, is never published. Alsoriano97 (talk) 10:51, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
• Comment For someone who oppose the posting of this event to become the blurb, it is major event that had significant attention around the world. I rather wait for this to be posted until Joe Biden is actually inaugurated at noon EST, after that it can be discussed whether the blurb can be posted or not. 180.242.50.227 (talk) 10:58, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

You seem to be saying that it should be posted and then we should discuss whether or not it should be posted? 331dot (talk) 11:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

• Comment - for Trump, we posted his inauguration as a secondary mention, two days after the event, but the main focus of that story was the 2017 Women's March that occurred because of the inauguration, not the event itself. As for Obama, back in 2009 we did post his first inauguration, but looking at that it feels like ITN was a different beast back then. There are seven stories posted, and each one is less than a line in length. And the discussion was just a couple of people saying let's do it. In 2013, the proposal to post Obama's second inauguration was roundly opposed. So I'd say precedent is that, in the current ITN format, we don't post unless there's something special about it.
• Oppose - Close it. STSC (talk) 13:24, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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