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  • Blurbs are one-sentence summaries of the news story.
    • Altblurbs, labelled alt1, alt2, etc., are alternative suggestions to cover the same story.
    • A target article, bolded in text, is the focus of the story. Each blurb must have at least one such article, but you may also link non-target articles.
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  • The Recent deaths (RD) line includes any living thing whose death was recently announced. Consensus may decide to create a blurb for a recent death.

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  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated). Do not add sections for new dates manually – a bot does that for us each day at midnight (UTC).
  • Create a level 4 header with the article name (==== Your article here ====). Add (RD) or (Ongoing) if appropriate.
Then paste the {{ITN candidate}} template with its parameters and fill them in. The news source should be reliable, support your nomination and be in the article. Write your blurb in simple present tense. Below the template, briefly explain why we should post that event. After that, save your edit. Your nomination is ready!
  • You may add {{ITN note}} to the target article's talk page to let editors know about your nomination.

The better your article's quality, the better it covers the event and the wider its perceived significance (see WP:ITNSIGNIF for details), the better your chances of getting the blurb posted.

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  • Admins should always separately verify whether these criteria are met before posting blurbs marked (Ready). For more guidance, check WP:ITN/A.
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    • Sometimes, editors ask to retract an already-posted nomination because of a fundamental error or because consensus changed. If you feel the community supports this, remove the item and mark the item as (Pulled).

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(Pulled) 2020 Summer Olympics postponed

Article: 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 2020 Summer Olympics will be postponed as a result of the coronavirus pandemic. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The International Olympic Committee announce that the Olympic Games planned for this summer will be postponed for one year
News source(s): Guardian BBC IOC
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Nominator's comments: Pretty major sporting event, worldwide. I remember someone saying that this should be the only event that should be ITN if postponed. --Rockin 19:50, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Manu Dibango

Article: Manu Dibango (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Famous saxophone player, died today (from Covid-19). Article has been updated extensivley by a number of editors already (not me!), not clear who best to give credit. Fram (talk) 10:57, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Albert Uderzo

Article: Albert Uderzo (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Le Monde, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Recent death of one of the most popular comics artists ever, artist (for over 50 years) and writer (for more than 20 years) of Asterix, known worldwide. Perhaps not quite at blurb level (though I wouldn't oppose one), but of the 10 most translated french language authors, he was the only one who still lived (see here). Fram (talk) 10:33, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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March 22

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2020 Zagreb earthquake

Article: 2020 Zagreb earthquake (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Croatia experiences its largest earthquake since 1880. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian, BBC ABC.net.au, Al Jazeera
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Nominator's comments: Largest earthquake to hit Croatia in 100+ years, widely reported on and tangentially related to the coronavirus. - Indefensible (talk) 04:40, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There was an initial report of 1 dead but was later corrected. As I suspect this will not get a sufficient support to get to ITN, I already nominated it for DYK. --Tone 07:53, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would otherwise support ITN, however, since I am the one who started the article, I will not take any admin actions. --Tone 09:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • I lean towards supporting. Significant damage and impact on the country. Judging significance from magnitude is, in my opinion, misleading, because damage depends on seismic readiness. Similar quakes have caused numerous deaths in India, and a slightly more powerful one in El Salvador caused thousands of casualties. Conversely, a 5.7 in Tokyo, the most-prepared capital, would be largely a yawner. I feel if an equivalent quake hit the capital of a more-populous country, such as D.C. or London, it would probably be posted. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 07:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Zagreb is a major European city and there was significant damage to the old city centre and many historic buildings such as churches and museums (e.g. [2][3][4]). The city's cathedral, which symbolises the city symbol as much as the Temple in aforementioned SLC, lost a spire (ref). There were also power and gas outages in parts of city, and other problems that go hand in hand with a major earthquake in a rarely affected region (ref), cf. Utah where the return period is 10 years (ref). Additionally, the strength still has to be ascertained for sure. Montenegro's seismological service estimates it at ML 6.0 (ref). Apologies for some non-English refs, am in a bit of a hurry. DaßWölf 09:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - a day later, this is still on the front page of the BBC site, it's major news. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 10:26, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Certainly unusual for Zagreb, but we can't post every <6M earthquake that kills no-one. See List of earthquakes in 2020 for the large number of bigger earthquakes we didn't post just in the last three months. The article is well-suited for DYK though. Modest Genius talk 10:44, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    A death has been confirmed. [5] DaßWölf 20:34, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Modest Genius. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 12:02, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose I'm not opposed to posting earthquakes that are minor if they cause major damage to historic sites, but it doesn't seem to be quite at that level. Blythwood (talk) 14:05, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Per Genius, Masem. Lacks broader significance. – Sca (talk) 14:07, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - DYK is a better fit.-- P-K3 (talk) 15:32, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Yes, it's a series of quakes with no deaths but if we marry together the rarity of the tremor in the area, the occurrence amidst the coronavirus pandemic and the damage it caused to many old buildings in the city, it's sensible to make an argument for. The main news in the Croatian media after this happened revolve around the fear of how letting people go out to prevent from potential aftershocks might impact pandemic's spread in the country. At the end, while the death toll is an important indicator for evaluating significance, it shouldn't rule out outright every similar story under unusual circumstances.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Same issue with the Utah quake - several historical buildings damanged [6] several aftershocks, concerns on the impact re COVID, but no deaths. I would agree there is a good chance of a major disaster that could strike somewhere in the world where there is a shelter-in-place or a massive medical response where the disaster would worsen the COVID spread or impact the medical response to the treatment, even if the disaster itself resulted in no deaths, but this one does not appear to be it - the articles suggest that everyone remained calm and after the initial shakes, stayed indoors as ordered. So I don't see that a story to post yet, especially if we're not posting the Utah quake story which was essentially of the same scope. --Masem (t) 16:37, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • I get your point and this is not far from what you consider postable. The Clinical Centre for Pulmonary Diseases at the University Hospital Centre was evacuated because of the building's high seismic risk. Unlike the Utah quake that you're referring to, this one shaked a national capital where people from the entire country and the surrounding area are frequently admitted to hospital these days. The apparent disruption of this process is a big deal and seems to be of a much larger scope compared to the impact it made on the response to the pandemic in Salt Lake City.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 18:12, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support seems to be a damaging and disruptive earthquake in a national capital. WP:MINIMUMDEATHS is meaningless. Weak because the article is stubby. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:40, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support once the tag is fixed. Kingsif (talk) 20:48, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Canada withdraws from the 2020 Tokyo Olympics

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Article: 2020 Summer Olympics (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Canada withdraws from the Tokyo Olympics if the Olympics are not postponed to next year (Post)
News source(s): CBCAlerts
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Article updated
 Count Iblis (talk) 04:28, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Lorenzo Sanz

Article: Lorenzo Sanz (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC USA Today CBS Sports Le Monde) (La Repubblica) (The New York Times)
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Former president of Real Madrid whose death had an international coverage. Alsoriano97 (talk) 11:47, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Yokohama Northwest Route

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Article: Yokohama Northwest Route (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The 7.1-kilometer-long (4.4 mi) Yokohama Northwest Route of the Shuto Expressway system opens in Yokohama after its planning was aided by local residents. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The 7.1-kilometer-long (4.4 mi) Yokohama Northwest Route of the Shuto Expressway system opens in Yokohama.
News source(s): [1][2]
Credits:
 Mccunicano☕️ 03:16, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Hellmut Stern

Article: Hellmut Stern (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tagesspiegel, RBB (with audio in German)
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Violinist, born in Berlin, fleeing the Nazis to China, Israel, U.S., back to Berlin, principal violinist of the Berlin Philharmonic, and making the impossible possible: bring the orchestra (the former Reichssender) to Israel. - New article. Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 22 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Janata Curfew

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Articles: Janata Curfew (talk · history · tag) and 2020 coronavirus pandemic in India (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ India observes a 14-hour long Janata Curfew (people's curfew) on 22 March 2020 to combat coronavirus pandemic in India (Post)
Credits:
 Titodutta (talk) 19:50, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alright, thanks, yes, length is an issue as well, until it is fixed, withdrawn. --Titodutta (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: P. K. Banerjee

Article: P. K. Banerjee (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Economic Times ESPN
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Legendary Indian Football player. Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:04, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please take a look now.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:20, 24 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed pending article improvement) RD/Blurb: Kenny Rogers

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Article: Kenny Rogers (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  American singer Kenny Rogers dies at the age of 81. (Post)
News source(s): Variety NBC News People.com
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Legendary American country singer. – Ianblair23 (talk) 06:55, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Claude Bennett

Article: Claude Bennett (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): OttawaMatters Ottawa Citizen Twitter - Brian Lilley Twitter - John Fraser Twitter - Lisa MacLeod
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Bennett holds significance as the youngest person to become a member of Ontario's cabinet and was responsible for securing funding for the Rideau Centre and Ottawa Heart Institute among others in Ottawa. Not many news sources are available, although multiple politicians and journalists have commented, listed are a few of those in Twitter messages. Fulserish (talk) 01:40, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Willigis Jäger

Article: Willigis Jäger (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BR
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Quite an interesting person between Catholic spirituality and Zen. I expanded from one line. There could be more, but not now. Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:20, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2012 Delhi Gang rape

Article: 2012 Delhi gang rape (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ India executes four men convicted of the 2012 Delhi gang rape. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Four men were hanged for their involvement related to 2012 Delhi gang rape.
News source(s): BBC, Al Jazeera, The Guardian, AP
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: This was one of the worst criminal cases happened in India and I acknowledge the fact that this incident is overshadowed by the country's coronavirus pandemic. Abishe (talk) 06:33, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support – Widely featured on RS sites. Highly significant in India, where many speak Eng. as a 2nd language. More noteworthy than the weak Asteriornis item, which has zero tangible impact on anyone. – Sca (talk) 14:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Actual execution is more significant than conviction and this issue is highly featured in reliable sources. – Ammarpad (talk) 16:16, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Notable enough. Puddleglum2.0(How's my driving?) 16:56, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment can someone please read and clean up this mess before it's rushed to the MP? The "Changes to the legal system" section has a whole section about a memorial held in London -- aka not changed to the legal system. Also has this grammar gem "From recordings made by a highway CCTV vehicle, a description of the bus, a white charter bus with a name written on it, was broadcast." among others. If we're going to paste irrelevancies on the main page at the very least lets not let the article be rubbish. --LaserLegs (talk) 17:01, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Masem and Wolfson. robertsky (talk) 18:02, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose as above Kingsif (talk) 21:34, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems a bit strange that this is called the "2012 Delhi gang rape" case. Is the gang rape or the murder more significant? In a city the size of Delhi, this is probably not the only gang rape case that occurred in 2012; rather I would guess that it is noteworthy for its severity and outcome. However, the article is a Good Article. Since it is a noteworthy event in the news (although not locally for some editors), it may meet the requirements for posting. - Indefensible (talk) 22:37, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • No one is denying it was notable, just that we posted the point when the men were convicted back in 2013. They've obviously been trying to get appeals which have failed and only just now the sentence carried out, but ITN doesn't duplicate posting the conviction and completion of the sentence. --Masem (t) 22:50, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Where in the posting requirements does it say that repeats are not allowed? If it is just by informal principle or tradition, I would argue that the coronavirus items violate that as well then. - Indefensible (talk) 23:02, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • Generally, we don't provide "updates" on stories, particularly when the status quo is maintained which is the case here. There is a bit of concern with those arguing "justice served" which is a bit...righting great wrongs type of thought. WP wants to stay neutral and we respect appropriate legal punishments derived from fair trials and there's no doubt there was such the case here, but again, that they were executed now doesn't change anything at this point. Status quo is the same. --Masem (t) 23:18, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
          • When we get to the Olympics this year, if they do not get cancelled, I would think there would be a blurb for when it begins and when it ends. Would that not be the case? It seems arguable either way on whether the status quo is maintained or not, just based on the scope and how the event is framed. Now I do not feel that strongly about this specific event, but one could consider the difference being that 4 individuals are now dead whereas they were alive before, and the blurb is a sort of RD entry with broader social implications. - Indefensible (talk) 23:26, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose posting the same story twice. P-K3 (talk) 00:47, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose criminals are executed daily across the world for heinous crimes. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 09:23, 21 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Igor Matovič

Article: Igor Matovič (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Igor Matovič is sworn in as Prime Minister of Slovakia. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Igor Matovič becomes Prime Minister of Slovakia following elections in February.
News source(s): The Slovak Spectator, TASR, Yahoo News
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Please run on 21 March when he is sworn in. buidhe 06:09, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • We generally do not post mere swearing-in/inauguration/coronation of a politician, as it is their choosing that usually considered to be notable(i.e. the election they won). 331dot (talk) 13:17, 20 March 2020 (UTC),[reply]
I don't see anything stopping it going up right now - no-one has opposed, the article is updated, and the quality is fine. I'll mark it ready, even though I !voted. Modest Genius talk 16:09, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Stephen Schwartz (pathologist)

Article: Stephen Schwartz (pathologist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): MSN Seattle Times
Credits:
Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Notable pathologist at the University of Washington. 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:B502:FA28:F231:1CEB (talk) 01:01, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Italy coronavirus deaths top China's

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Article: 2020 coronavirus pandemic in Italy (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The number of deaths from COVID-19 in Italy overtakes the number of deaths from the disease in China. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Apologies for coronavirus blurb. Kingsif (talk) 17:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC) Kingsif (talk) 17:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
One theory is that it's the belief in miracles that partly got them into this mess, with "holy" water, wafers and wine in churches being a major transmission method. HiLo48 (talk) 21:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Glad you find it funny. —Nizolan (talk · c.) 22:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't. I find it sad. HiLo48 (talk) 23:07, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Peter Whittingham

Article: Peter Whittingham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): The Independent
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Professional footballer, most notably for Cardiff City. It was already nominated a few days ago and turned out he hadn't died, but it is now confirmed. Date of death not certain, most likely today or yesterday but was announced today.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:34, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support CN tags were fixed by Black Kite with previous nom. Hopefully we can find a source that gives a solid date, but it was definitely either the 18th or 19th, as per police statement yesterday. PotentPotables (talk) 15:14, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The reference says he died "Thursday" will Support as per above Joseywales1961 (talk) 15:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Joseywales1961: That's not totally clear - the sentence says "Cardiff City confirmed that the club legend succumbed to his injuries on Thursday in an emotional statement", which is ambiguous - the "on Thursday" could refer to the "confirmed" or to the "succumbed"... The Cardiff statement on Twitter didn't say either way. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 15:25, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've checked the BBC, WalesOnline, Cardiff's statement and none explicitly say when he died. I think c. 19 or "18 or 19 March" is the best we'll get for now. PotentPotables (talk) 15:27, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, the way I read those. They all suggest the death was overnight having been in critical condition since the accident. I would use "ca. 19 March 2019" only because, with GMT time zone, that's when the sources are reporting it. --Masem (t) 15:29, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru: struck through to support - I will continue looking for sources with a firm date Joseywales1961 (talk) 15:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt there are any sources yet, it looked like all were feeding off the Cardiff City announcement, and that didn't say exactly when. Will probably become clear in due course. It doesn't really affect the nom either way though, we know he died recently and it was announced today, so it is eligbible for RD.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:57, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That ambiguous Independent article is once again being used to "confirm" the death as the 19th.-- P-K3 (talk) 15:59, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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(Posted) RD: Sir John Tooley

Article: John Tooley (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Telegraphy obituary Telegraph death announcement
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Longtime director of the Royal Opera House. Article appears to be in decent shape. Ad Orientem (talk) 03:46, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Catherine Hamlin

Article: Catherine Hamlin (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Medical doctor, founded a nonprofit hospital in Ethiopia. - Indefensible (talk) 22:33, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Abel prize

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Article: Abel Prize (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Abel Prize in mathematics is awarded to Hillel Furstenberg (pictured) and Grigory Margulis. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The Abel Prize in mathematics is awarded to Hillel Furstenberg (pictured) and Grigory Margulis.
News source(s): NY times
Article updated
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 Fdfexoex (talk) 14:02, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Per past discussions, we realllly would like the winners to be the target article. I know they're not in great shape, but these are the people we should be featuring. --Masem (t) 14:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, we can't bold-link to an entry in a table. If there's no article about the thing they won it for, the two biographies will need to be brought up to scratch. Unfortunately they're a long way from being postable right now, and probably require the attention of an expert mathematician to sort out. Modest Genius talk 16:30, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • While we have a couple of images of Margulis, they aren't great in quality compared to what we have of Furstenberg. (no good tight head shot). --Masem (t) 16:45, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose for now unfortunately both peoples' articles are shoddy at the moment. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 21:12, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Asteriornis maastrichtensis

Article: Asteriornis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Paleontologists identify the fossilized skull of Asteriornis maastrichtensis, the oldest evidence of modern birds, dating to the Mesozoic era. (Post)
News source(s): Nature article, BBC, The Guardian, CNN
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: Obviously too short to post now (I will try to expand if no one else does), and yes, just had another paleo. story up, but again, it is widely covered ITN, it is the type of thing we'd usually cover and it's not COVID related. Also please see discussion below related the previous case of the "smallest dinosaur" though I'm not seeing the same doubts here: they've identified the core elements that a bird skull would have (it was found nearly whole), and have carbon-dated it. So it's not like more wild guesing. Masem (t) 01:56, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose We've had another similar article on here quite recently. Now that the COVID map is no longer the picture and we've had two blurbs unrelated to the pandemic (and presumably all future blurbs barring something like an Olympics cancellation now that the banner's up), "non-coronavirus" is not a reason to post. While I won't strongly object if consensus develops to post this, I still think it's much too early to post another paleontology blurb (and I say that as someone with a background in evolutionary biology). – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 02:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Upon further thought I'll likely support this if we pull the earlier blurb, as this seems less scientifically controversial and more significant. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 02:43, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I am further aware that having topically-similar blurbs at the same time or close together isn't completely unprecedented, mainly happening with stuff like the Nobel prizes. Unlike those instances, however, these aren't deliberately scheduled together. I also know that pulling a blurb for the sake of a better one doesn't have much if any precedent, so I'm essentially relying on IAR there. I still weakly oppose given the scheduling, but I might reiterate that I won't strongly object if this gets consensus. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 03:00, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I did try to figure out if this was some special issue of Nature to happen to warrant to rather similar stories but it seems like these are just coinicidentally two similar stories that were publishers at near similar times. If it were the case this were a special issue, I would agree with focusing on the story with the lease scientific doubt (this one), but that doesn't seem to be the case. --Masem (t) 03:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support now that the smallest dinosaur blurb has been pulled. It is adequately referenced and ready for the main page now. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 21:09, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as a replacement for the Oculudentavis blurb. I've made some substantial expansions, it should be as decent as Oculudentavis as an article. As a news item, it is much better, since the blurb about Oculudentavis being the smallest known dinosaur would be completely misleading if it turned out to be a lizard. From my perspective on the paleontology community's criticisms, that may very well be the case.Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 04:22, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Currently the article is supported by a single reference, its Nature paper. Are there any other refs that can be added to support it? While Nature is a respectable source, the other current paleo article also had at least one Nature ref, plus others in addition. From a referencing perspective, the other article seems better supported. - Indefensible (talk) 04:32, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • There is this, a second article by a different author in the same volume of Nature explaining at a slightly higher level the significance of this discovery (eg placing the start of the modern bird development earlier than previously known). And then using the top level news sources like NYtimes gives some outside quotes from others that also qualify the result (eg the NYTimes says "The Wonderchicken, Dr. Worthy said, “appears to fill that gap.”"). Add articles to flush out what was known before about birds , and what this discovery changes, and you'll have about 6-8 sources I think, 4-6 of those as scientific journals. --Masem (t) 04:41, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. A much better replacement for Oculudentavis. The article looks to be in good shape as well (although some discussion of the Valkenburg Member's palaeoecology would be a good addition). Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:16, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Article looks well-referenced now, good work Fanboyphilosopher. Suggest Wiki linking paleontology again as it is a Good Article. - Indefensible (talk) 18:20, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Post-posting comment – Arcane and not really in the news. Zero tangible impact on anyone. – Sca (talk) 15:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Alfred Worden

Article: Alfred Worden (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Florida Today
Credits:

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Nominator's comments: Apollo 15 astronaut. A few cn tags, but items can be addressed or removed as needed. - Indefensible (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Agree with above.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:48, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Eurovision Song Contest cancelled

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Article: Eurovision Song Contest 2020 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The EBU cancels the Eurovision Song Contest for the first time ever because of the coronavirus outbreak. (Post)
News source(s): [9],[10], [11]
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Historic decision, breaking a chain of 64 broadcast Eurovision in a row. World most viewed televised music contest. --BabbaQ (talk) 15:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unless we argue that anything that would be ITN/R but is cancelled should get a blurb anyway... Kingsif (talk) 17:36, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) Turing Award

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Articles: Edwin Catmull (talk · history · tag) and Pat Hanrahan (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Edwin Catmull (pictured) and Pat Hanrahan are awarded the Turing Award for their pioneering work on computer-generated imagery. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes
Credits:

Article updated
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.

Nominator's comments: I will be updating about the Turing in both articles immediately after this. Catmull's needs a bit more sourcing. Masem (t) 13:38, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Pulled) Smallest known dinosaur discovered

Article: Oculudentavis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Scientists discover the amber-preserved skull of the smallest known dinosaur Oculudentavis, comparable in size to the bee hummingbird. (Post)
Alternative blurb: Paleontologists discover Oculudentavis, the smallest non-avian dinosaur known thus far.
Alternative blurb II: Paleontologists discover Oculudentavis, the smallest dinosaur of the Mesozoic.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Scientists discover Oculudentavis, the smallest known dinosaur of the Mesozoic era.
News source(s): NBC News, Nature paper
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Both something that would get into ITN on some days, but also a need to fill blurbs due to the news otherwise being dominated by covid-19 stuff. (eg avoiding just news for news sake to be added). Article is in good shape. Masem (t) 04:33, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Satis, and while not a reason for posting in of itself it's nice to have something not coronavirus-related. 05:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)
  • Bee hummingbird is not quite up to the frontpage standard in my opinion, can that phrase be dropped from the blurb? - Indefensible (talk) 05:08, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The suggested blurbs are dubious. Birds are dinosaurs and, moreover, this one was an avialan dinosaur. That said, the bee hummingbird is taxonomically the smallest dinosaur and it's unclear if this was definitely smaller. Additionally, the paper published in Nature points out that it represents the smallest dinosaur of the Mesozoic era, while NBC News have apparently generalised the context of the discovery in their news.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:48, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Re birds are dinosaurs, taxonomically that might be the case but in common parlance "dinosaur" is usually a paraphyletic group that excludes Aves, much like the Fish and Monkey categories tend to exclude humans from their definitions. If you can find a way to phrase this to make it unambiguous, please go ahead, but I don't think it should stop the nom.  — Amakuru (talk) 09:23, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    @Amakuru: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and it should always deal with complete scientific accuracy as such, so arguments revolving around "common parlance" are not welcome here (Monkeys and humans have very recent common ancestor but belong to distinct subfamilies of the primates order. Humans are apes and have never been excluded from that subfamily.). The common notion of dinosaurs as extinct species of gigantic lizards as presented in many illustrated books and animated films has proven to be false and Wikipedia is the right place to break this misconception. I've suggested another blurb that clarifies it was the smallest dinosaur species of the Mesozoic era as indicated in the paper.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:07, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm well aware of the scientific situation, but your point "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia" is exactly why we don't publish things in the same way as a scientific paper would. Using commonly recognised names rather than overly technical ones is enshrined in our policy. And let's be honest, even scientists don't regard humans as fish, and wouldn't find it useful to do so. Referring to the "mesozoic" is unnecessary detail, and dilutes the significance of this find. Using the standard term "non-avian dinosaurs" or similar might work though. Thanks  — Amakuru (talk) 10:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Birds, being dinosaurs, include the smallest known, the bee hummingbird. Saying that this new dinosaur skull is the smallest known should include clarification that the bee hummingbird is equally small. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:30, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    As someone with a background in evolutionary biology, I have to agree with Amakuru that Wikipedia, being a general-purpose encyclopedia, is targeted towards a general audience and as such should stick to the common understanding of "dinosaur" excluding birds, especially on the Main Page. The comparison to a bee hummingbird can remain in the blurb, but should not be referred to as a dinosaur. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 16:34, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - not corona related, thanks. I personally think this article is ITN ready. BabbaQ (talk) 09:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, I think alt 1 is the best of the blurbs but I'm not opposed to any of them. Thryduulf (talk) 10:22, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Obvious support -- Very happy to see this. I was ready to nominate this myself when news first broke but gave up halfway through filling the form, because [excuses]. I have added a slightly adjusted version of Alt II as Alt III (Too many wikilinks and missing "known", IMO). I would also prefer "Mesozoic dinosaur" to "dinosaur of the Mesozoic era" if it's okay to have two consecutive wikilinks. Finally, I do agree we need to be precise with the blurb even at the risk of losing other desirable attributes. Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:26, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Stale I recall reading about this several days ago and indeed both sources given are dated the 11th. At the very least this should be re-filed under the correct date where it is about to fall off the tracker. 3142 (talk) 11:14, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is newer than any of the other blurbs currently in the board. We need something to fill space. --Masem (t) 13:09, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I would oppose that: I have no interest in debating the merits of that point other that to say you will have a hard time convincing most that a bird is a dinosaur. Regardless, an ITN blurb is not the place to start grinding that particular axe. 3142 (talk) 14:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
? There is no debate, birds are dinosaurs and are accurately called dinosaurs on Wikipedia. The blurb is essentially inaccurate in not pointing that out. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:15, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The alternatives mentioning the Mesozoic would be preferable in this case, as it's factually accurate without needing to confuse people with true but not widely known taxonomy. Gʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ˣ 14:24, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In these unique times, I think it may very well be from now on.--WaltCip (talk) 18:25, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
As an editor from the dinosaur project, I have no strong objections to this wording (since it is, after all, the reported conclusion of the paper, and the controversy cannot be summarized in one sentence). However, I disagree with your reasoning, Masem. To quote palaeontologist Mike Taylor, "the venue of its publication tells us nothing useful about the quality of a paper". One only needs to look to Andrew Wakefield's Lancet paper for a clear example. Even in the domain of palaeontology, the majority of text written for Nature and Science articles gets dumped into the online supplementary information, which is reviewed much less rigorously. Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 00:42, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. I created the article and I have to say that the identification of the skull as avialan (bird) is very questionable. Many paleontologists have argued for an interpretation of the skull as a lizard both informally and formally, in the case of researchers at the IVPP in Beijing. The academic integrity of the primary author is also under scrutiny. We should not advertise a work as controversial as this on the front page. Fanboyphilosopher (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Misleading blurb. Pavlor (talk) 07:27, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pulled with regret as there seems to be agreement that the blurb is misleading. Please discuss if it can be reposted with a different blurb — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Please note that there is now a preprint (not yet peer-reviewed) of a scientific paper formally rejecting an avian identity for Oculudentavis: [12] Lythronaxargestes (talk | contribs) 17:18, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2020 stock market crash

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Article: 2020 stock market crash (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ At least one benchmark stock market index in each of the G7 and in 14 of the G20 have fallen into bear markets as part a global stock market crash that began on 20 February 2020. (Post)
News source(s): Asia-Pacific3-16-2020 Europe3-16-2020 U.S.
Credits:
Article updated
Nominator's comments: Significant ongoing global stock market crash related to COVID-19 pandemic. CommonKnowledgeCreator (talk) 02:20, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Previously I would have supported this, but now it is indirectly covered by the "Impact" link in the coronavirus box I think. There are also 2 Closed nominations visible below related to this same article. - Indefensible (talk) 02:32, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Euro Cup and Copa America has been postponed

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Article: UEFA Euro 2020 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The UEFA Euro 2020 and the 2020 Copa America football tournaments have been postponed until summer of 2021 amid COVID-19 fears. (Post)
News source(s): Euro 2020 postponed for a year by Uefa because of coronavirus crisis
Nominator's comments: It's official: The Euro 2020 and the Copa America have officially been postponed until summer of 2021. 2607:FB90:5E9E:19AE:7DFF:684C:DC10:E7FC (talk) 03:11, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The NBA postponement failed and this appears roughly equivalent. In any event we have the coronavirus banner and this doesn't appear to warrant its own blurb. – John M Wolfson (talkcontribs) 03:54, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The only sporting event at this point that would be news if postponed would be the Olympics as the top event across multiple sports and countries representing the scale of the issue. --Masem (t) 04:06, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose + a couple of comments Too narrow a perspective, in commenting on just one sport. But at least, unlike the NBA, this is international competition. And to the OP, "summer" is a bad descriptor of a calendar time. Several of the Copa America teams come from places in the southern hemisphere, where summer runs from December to March. I doubt that's what you meant. HiLo48 (talk) 04:10, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose probably more newsworthy to find an international tournament that hasn't been affected by Covid-19. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 08:02, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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March 17

Business and economy

Health and environment

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Sports

Sophie Wilmès

Articles: Sophie Wilmès (talk · history · tag) and Belgium (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Belgium forms a government led by caretaker prime minister Sophie Wilmès (pictured), the country's first female head of government. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: Notable change of government leadership. Article is a bit short, but may be good enough for posting as-is. - Indefensible (talk) 01:59, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

She's been prime minister for nearly half a year...? Ivar the Boneful (talk) 02:52, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You are right, I think the difference is that she was only a caretaker previously but now is not just a caretaker. Might still be notable enough to post, would probably need to update the blurb. - Indefensible (talk) 03:47, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Updated the blurb per the above. - Indefensible (talk) 04:57, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Betty Williams

Article: Betty Williams (peace activist) (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 1976 Nobel Peace Prize winner. Article currently has an orange banner and could use light cleanup / a couple more refs, but is close to post-worthy I think. Nominating for visibility to improve & post. - Indefensible (talk) 04:16, 19 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early human mammoth bone structure

Article: Kostyonki-Borshchyovo archaeological complex (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Archaeologists discover evidence of one of the largest structures made by early humans ca. 40,000 years ago from the bones of about 60 woolly mammoths at the Kostyonki-Borshchyovo archaeological complex. (Post)
News source(s): NYTimes, Antiquity (peer reviewed paper)
Credits:

Article needs updating

Nominator's comments: This could be expaned upon more in the target article, but it is definitely is in the news with the journal publication. Masem (t) 15:56, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Thai Thanh

Article: Thai Thanh (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Tuoi Tre
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: 20th century Vietnamese singer. One of the foremost singers of the 'New Music' period (WWII onwards). I am expanding it further Bumbubookworm (talk) 03:17, 18 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Eduard Limonov

Article: Eduard Limonov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters,New York Times, RFE/RL, RT
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Prominent Russian writer and controversary politician. VanHelsing.16 (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) RD: Peter Whittingham

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Article: Peter Whittingham (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): EuroWeekly News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Professional athlete from the UK. Article has a few cn tags which should be easily resolved, but otherwise looks well-referenced. - Indefensible (talk) 19:59, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. There is no confirmation of this on BBC Sport's Cardiff City page, on Cardiff City's website or social media, or any local press. Just a minor English-diaspora newspaper in Spain citing tweets. This is completely unacceptable, and if I had a confirmed account I'd revert the news of his "death". 2A00:23C5:E187:5F00:A121:F6B1:502B:6CB1 (talk) 20:14, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Until there's any news here, don't believe it [14] 2A00:23C5:E187:5F00:A121:F6B1:502B:6CB1 (talk) 20:16, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This seems like the right direction, did not realize there was an issue with the source. Thank you for pointing out the issue. Recommend registering for a Wiki account regardless. - Indefensible (talk) 20:27, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait I haven't reverted this yet because I believe EWN to be a reasonably reliable source (and for other reasons). If true, then Support (I've fixed all the CN tags in the article). Black Kite (talk) 20:29, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thanks for addressing the cn tags Black Kite. The article should be good to go quality-wise if there is confirmation I think, although hopefully the subject will be able to say that the news is greatly exaggerated. - Indefensible (talk) 20:33, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hm. The Wales Online story has disappeared. I am guessing that this is sadly true but is waiting for family to be informed before being released, but for the time being I have reverted (and semi-protected) the article. Black Kite (talk) 20:35, 17 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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References

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  1. ^ "首都高 横浜北西線22日開通" [Metropolitan Expressway Yokohama Northwest Route opening on the 22nd]. NHK (in Japanese). 20 March 2020. Retrieved 22 March 2020.
  2. ^ "住民の反対ゼロ 変わる高速道路建設、その新たな手法" [Zero opposition from residents: changing expressway construction, a new approach] (in Japanese). 28 June 2015. Retrieved 22 March 2020.